LAND GRAB

EXACTLY what the US Government does to people.

Trish Vieira

The LAND GRAB with the BLM is not a new tactic…see what happens to an evil king in Israel who took the farm land of an innocent man by setting him up to be an enemy of the state (by false accusations) then had him killed so they could possess his vineyard…
1 Kings 21

Naboth’s vineyard
21 Now it happened sometime later that Naboth from Jezreel had a vineyard in Jezreel that was next to the palace of King Ahab of Samaria. 2 Ahab ordered Naboth, “Give me your vineyard so it can become my vegetable garden, because it is right next to my palace. In exchange for it, I’ll give you an even better vineyard. Or if you prefer, I’ll pay you the price in silver.”

3 Naboth responded to Ahab, “Lord forbid that I give you my family inheritance!”

4 So Ahab went to his palace, irritated and upset at what Naboth[a] had said to him—because Naboth had said, “I won’t give you my family inheritance!” Ahab lay down on his bed and turned his face away. He wouldn’t eat anything.

5 His wife Jezebel came to him. “Why are you upset and not eating any food?” she asked.

6 He answered her, “I was talking to Naboth. I said, ‘Sell me your vineyard. Or if you prefer, I’ll give you another vineyard for it.’ But he said, ‘I won’t give you my vineyard!’”

7 Then his wife Jezebel said to him, “Aren’t you the one who rules Israel? Get up! Eat some food and cheer up. I’ll get Naboth’s vineyard for you myself.” 8 So she wrote letters in Ahab’s name, putting his seal on them. She sent them to the elders and officials who lived in the same town as Naboth. 9 This is what she wrote in the letters: “Announce a fast and place Naboth at the head of the people. 10 Then bring in two liars in front of him and have them testify as follows: ‘You cursed God and king!’ Then take Naboth outside and stone him so he dies.”

11 The elders and the officials who lived in Naboth’s town did exactly as Jezebel specified in the letters that she had sent. 12 They announced a fast and placed Naboth at the head of the people. 13 Then the two liars came and sat in front of him. They testified against Naboth in front of the people, “Naboth cursed God and king!” So the people took Naboth outside the town and stoned him so that he died.

14 It was then reported to Jezebel, “Naboth was stoned. He’s dead.” 15 As soon as Jezebel heard that Naboth had been stoned to death, she said to Ahab, “Get up and take ownership of the vineyard of Naboth, which he had refused to sell to you. Naboth is no longer alive; he’s dead.” 16 When Ahab heard that Naboth had died, he got up and went down to Naboth’s vineyard to take ownership of it.

17 The Lord’s word came to Elijah from Tishbe: 18 Get up and go down to meet Israel’s King Ahab in Samaria. He is in Naboth’s vineyard. He has gone down to take ownership of it. 19 Say the following to him: This is what the Lord says: So, you’ve murdered and are now taking ownership, are you? Then tell him: This is what the Lord says: In the same place where the dogs licked up Naboth’s blood, they will lick up your own blood.

20 Ahab said to Elijah, “So you’ve found me, my old enemy!”

“I found you,” Elijah said, “because you’ve enslaved yourself by doing evil in the Lord’s eyes. 21 So I am now bringing evil on you! I will burn until you are consumed, and I will eliminate everyone who urinates on a wall that belongs to Ahab, whether slave or free. 22 I will make your household like that of Jeroboam, Nebat’s son, and like the household of Baasha, Ahijah’s son, because of the way you’ve angered me and because you’ve made Israel sin. 23 As for Jezebel, the Lord says this: Dogs will devour Jezebel in the area of Jezreel. 24 Dogs will eat anyone of Ahab’s family who dies in town, and birds will eat anyone who dies in the country.”

(25 Truly there has never been anyone like Ahab who sold out by doing evil in the Lord’s eyes—evil that his wife Jezebel led him to do. 26 Ahab’s actions were deplorable. He followed after the worthless idols exactly like the Amorites had done—the very ones the Lord had removed before the Israelites.)

27 When Ahab heard these words, he tore his clothes and put mourning clothes on his body. He fasted, even slept in mourning clothes, and walked around depressed. 28 The Lord’s word then came to Elijah from Tishbe: 29 Have you seen how Ahab has humbled himself before me? Because he has done so, I won’t bring the evil during his lifetime. Instead, I will bring the evil on his household in the days of his son.

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BREAKING ALERT! URGENT CALL TO ACTION! ALL CALL FOR ALL PATRIOTS! MILITIAS! OATH-KEEPERS! FROM AMMON BUNDY RANCH! JANUARY 2 BURNS OREGON! http://bundyranch.blogspot.com/…/facts-events-in-hammond-ca… Israel Torres Kristin Ekstrom Blanka Nieves Bundy Ranch Jason Patrick Brooke Agresta Brandon Curtiss

Facts & Events in the Hammond Case

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(aa) The Harney Basin (were the Hammond ranch is established) was settled in the 1870’s. The valley was settled by multiple ranchers and was known to have run over 300,000 head of cattle. These ranchers developed a state of the art irrigated system to water the meadows, and it soon became a favorite stopping place for migrating birds on their annual trek north.

(ab) In 1908 President Theodor Roosevelt, in a political scheme, create an “Indian reservation” around the Malheur, Mud & Harney Lakes and declared it “as a preserve and breeding ground for native birds”. Later this “Indian reservation” (without Indians) became the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

(a) In 1964 the Hammonds purchased their ranch in the Harney Basin. The purchase included approximately 6000 acres of private property, 4 grazing rights on public land, a small ranch house and 3 water rights. The ranch is around 53 miles South of Burns, Oregon.

(a1) By the 1970’s nearly all the ranches adjacent to the Blitzen Valley were purchased by the US Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) and added to the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. The refuge covers over 187,000 acres and stretches over 45 miles long and 37 miles wide. The expansion of the refuge grew and surrounds to the Hammond’s ranch. Being approached many times by the FWS, the Hammonds refused to sell. Other ranchers also choose not to sell.

(a2) During the 1970’s the Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS), in conjunction with the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), took a different approach to get the ranchers to sell. Ranchers were told that, “grazing was detrimental to wildlife and must be reduced”. 32 out of 53 permits were revoked and many ranchers were forced to leave. Grazing fees were raised significantly for those who were allowed to remain. Refuge personnel took over the irrigation system claiming it as their own.

(a3) By 1980 a conflict was well on its way over water allocations on the adjacent privately owned Silvies Plain. The FWS wanted to acquire the ranch lands on the Silvies Plain to add to their already vast holdings. Refuge personnel intentional diverted the water to bypassing the vast meadowlands, directing the water into the rising Malheur Lakes. Within a few short years the surface area of the lakes doubled. Thirty-one ranches on the Silvies plains were flooded. Homes, corrals, barns and graze-land were washed a way and destroyed. The ranchers that once fought to keep the FWS from taking their land, now broke and destroyed, begged the FWS to acquire their useless ranches. In 1989 the waters began to recede and now the once thriving privately owned Silvies pains are a proud part of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge claimed by the FWS.

(a4) By the 1990’s the Hammonds were one of the very few ranchers that still owned private property adjacent to the refuge. Susie Hammond in an effort to make sense of what was going on began compiling fact about the refuge. In a hidden public record she found a study that was done by the FWS in 1975. The study showed that the “no use” policies of the FWS on the refuge were causing the wildlife to leave the refuge and move to private property. The study showed that the private property adjacent to the Malheur Wildlife Refuge produced 4 times more ducks and geese than the refuge did. It also showed that the migrating birds were 13 times more likely to land on private property than on the refuge.  When Susie brought this to the attention of the FWS and refuge personnel, her and her family became the subjects of a long train of abuses and corruptions.

(b) In the early 1990’s the Hammonds filed on a livestock water source and obtained a deed for the water right from the State of Oregon. When the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and US Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) found out that the Hammonds obtained new water rights near the Malhuer Wildlife Refuge, they were agitated and became belligerent and vindictive towards the Hammonds. The US Fish and Wildlife Service challenged the Hammonds right to the water in an Oregon State Circuit Court.  The court found that the Hammonds legally obtained rights to the water in accordance to State law and therefore the use of the water belongs to the Hammonds.*

(c) In August 1994 the BLM & FWS illegally began building a fence around the Hammonds water source. Owning the water rights and knowing that their cattle relied on that water source daily the Hammonds tried to stop the building of the fence. The BLM & FWS called the Harney County Sheriff department and had Dwight Hammond (Father) arrested and charged with “disturbing and interfering with” federal officials or federal contractors (two counts, each a felony). He spent one night in the Deschutes County Jail in Bend, and a second night behind bars in Portland before he was hauled before a federal magistrate and released without bail. A hearing on the charges was postponed and the federal judge never set another date.

(d) The FWS also began restricting access to upper pieces of the Hammond’s private property. In order to get to the upper part of the Hammond’s ranch they had to go on a road that went through the Malhuer Wildlife Refuge. The FWS began barricading the road and threatening the Hammonds if they drove through it. The Hammonds removed the barricades and gates and continued to use their right of access. The road was proven later to be owned by the County of Harney. This further enraged the BLM & FWS.

(e) Shortly after the road & water disputes, the BLM & FWS arbitrarily revoked the Hammond’s upper grazing permit without any given cause, court proceeding or court ruling. As a traditional “fence out state” Oregon requires no obligation on the part of an owner to keep his or her livestock within a fence or to maintain control over the movement of the livestock.  The Hammonds intended to still use their private property for grazing. However, they were informed that a federal judge ruled, in a federal court, that the federal government did not have to observe the Oregon fence out law. “Those laws are for the people, not for them”.

(f) The Hammonds were forced to either build and maintain miles of fences or be restricted from the use of their private property. Cutting their ranch in almost half, they could not afford to fence the land, so the cattle were removed.

Dwight Hammond (Father)
(g) The Hammonds experienced many years of financial hardship due to the ranch being diminished. The Hammonds had to sale their ranch and home in order to purchase another property that had enough grass to feed their cattle. This property included two grazing rights on public land. Those were also arbitrarily revoked later.

(h) The owner of the Hammond’s original ranch passed away from a heart attack and the Hammonds made a trade for the ranch back.

(i) In the early fall of 2001, Steven Hammond (Son) called the fire department, informing them that he was going to be performing a routine prescribed burn on their ranch. Later that day he started a prescribed fire on their private property. The fire went onto public land and burned 127 acres of grass. The Hammonds put the fire out themselves. There was no communication about the burn from the federal government to the Hammonds at that time. Prescribed fires are a common method that Native Americans and ranchers have used in the area to increase the health & productivity of the land for many centuries.

 

(j) In 2006 a massive lightning storm started multiple fires that joined together inflaming the countryside. To prevent the fire from destroying their winter range and possibly their home, Steven Hammond (Son) started a backfire on their private property. The backfire was successful in putting out the lightning fires that had covered thousands of acres within a short period of time. The backfire saved much of the range and vegetation needed to feed the cattle through the winter. Steven’s mother, Susan Hammond said: “The backfire worked perfectly, it put out the fire, saved the range and possibly our home”.

(j1) The next day federal agents went to the Harney County Sheriff’s office and filled a police report making accusation against Dwight and Steven Hammond for starting the backfire. A few days after the backfire a Range-Con from the Burns District BLM office asked Steven if he would meet him in town (Frenchglen) for coffee. Steven accepted. When leaving he was arrested by the Harney County Sheriff Dave Glerup and BLM Ranger Orr. Sheriff Glerup then ordered him to go to the ranch and bring back his father. Both Dwight and Steven were booked and on multiple Oregon State charges. The Harney County District Attorney reviewed the accusation, evidence and charges, and determined that the accusations against Dwight & Steven Hammond did not warrant prosecution and dropped all the charges.

Steven Hammond (Son)
(k) In 2011, 5 years after the police report was taken, the U.S. Attorney Office accused Dwight and Steven Hammond of completely different charges, they accused them of being “Terrorist” under the Federal Antiterrorism Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996. This act carries a minimum sentence of five years in prison and a maximum sentence of death. Dwight & Steven’s mug shots were all over the news the next week posing them as “Arsonists”. Susan Hammond (Wife & Mother) said: “I would walk down the street or go in a store, people I had known for years would take extreme measures to avoid me”.

(l) Shortly after the sentencing, Capital Press ran a story about the Hammonds. A person who identified as Greg Allum posted three comments on the article, calling the ranchers “clowns” who endangered firefighters and other people in the area while burning valuable rangeland. Greg Allum, a retired BLM heavy equipment operator, soon called Capital Press to complain that he had not made those comments and request that they be taken down from the website. Capital Press removed the comments. A search of the Internet Protocol address associated with the comments revealed it is owned by the BLM’s office in Denver, Colorado. Allum said, he is friends with the Hammonds and was alerted to the comments by neighbors who knew he wouldn’t have written them. “I feel bad for them. They lost a lot and they’re going to lose more,” Allum said of the ranchers. “They’re not terrorists. There’s this hatred in the BLM for them, and I don’t get it,” The retired BLM employee said. Jody Weil, deputy state director for communications at BLM’s Oregon office, indicated to reporters that if one of their agents falsified the comments, they would keep it private and not inform the public.

(m) In September 2006, Dwight & Susan Hammond’s home was raided. The agents informed the Hammonds that they were looking for evidence that would connect them to the fires. The Hammonds later found out that a boot print and a tire tracks were found near one of the many fires. No matching boots or tires were found in the Hammonds home or on their property.  Susan Hammond (Wife) later said; ” I have never felt so violated in my life. We are ranchers not criminals”.  Steven Hammond openly maintains his testimony that he started the backfire to save the winter grass from being destroyed and that the backfire ended up working so well it put out the fire entirely altogether.

(n) During the trial proceedings, Federal Court Judge Michael Hogan did not allow time for certain testimonies and evidence into the trail that would exonerate the Hammonds. Federal prosecuting attorney, Frank Papagni, was given full access for 6 days. He had ample time to use any evidence or testimony that strengthened the demonization of the Hammonds. The Hammonds attorney was only allowed 1 day. Much of the facts about the fires, land and why the Hammonds acted the way they did was not allowed into the proceedings and was not heard by the jury.  For example, Judge Hogan did not allow time for the jury to hear or review certified scientific findings that the fires improved the health and productivity of the land. Or, that the Hammonds had been subject to vindictive behavior by multiple federal agencies for years.

(o) Federal attorneys, Frank Papagni, hunted down a witness that was not mentally capable to be a credible witness. Dusty Hammond (grandson and nephew) testified that Steven told him to start a fire. He was 13 at the time and 24 when he testified (11 years later).  At 24 Dusty had been suffering with mental problems for many years.  He had estranged his family including his mother. Judge Hogan noted that Dusty’s memories as a 13-year-old boy were not clear or credible. He allowed the prosecution to continually use Dusty’s testimony anyway. When speaking to the Hammonds about this testimony, they understood that Dusty was manipulated and expressed nothing but love for their troubled grandson.

(p) Judge Michael Hogan & Frank Papagni tampered with the jury many times throughout the proceedings, including during the selection process. Hogan & Papagni only allowed people on the jury who did not understand the customs and culture of the ranchers or how the land is used and cared for in the Diamond Valley. All of the jurors had to drive back and forth to Pendleton everyday. Some drove more than two hours each way. By day 8 they were exhausted and expressed desires to be home. On the final day, Judge Hogan kept pushing them to make a verdict. Several times during deliberation, Judge Hogan pushed them to make a decision.  Judge Hogan also would not allow the jury to hear what punishment could be imposed upon an individual that has convicted as a terrorist under the 1996 act. The jury, not understanding the customs and cultures of the area, influenced by the prosecutors for 6 straight days, very exhausted, pushed for a verdict by the judge, unaware of the ramification of convicting someone as a terrorist, made a verdict and went home.

(q) June 22, 2012, Dwight and Steven were found guilty of starting both the 2001 and the 2006 fires by the jury. However, the federal courts convicted them both as “Terrorist” under the 1996 Antiterrorism Act. Judge Hogan sentenced Dwight (Father) to 3 months in prison and Steven (son) to 12 months in federal prison. They were also stipulated to pay $400,000 to the BLM. Hogan overruling the minimum terrorist sentence, commenting that if the full five years were required it would be a violation of the 8th amendment (cruel and unusual punishment). The day of the sentencing Judge Hogan retired as a federal judge. In his honor the staff served chocolate cake in the courtroom.

(r) On January 4,2013, Dwight and Steven reported to prison. They fulfilled their sentences, (Dwight 3 months, Steven 12 months). Dwight was released in March 2013 and Steven, January 2014.

(s) Sometime in June 2014, Rhonda Karges, Field Manager for the BLM, and her husband Chad Karges, Refuge Manager for the Malheur Wildlife Refuge (which surrounds the Hammond ranch), along with attorney Frank Papagni exemplifying further vindictive behavior by filing an appeal with the 9th District Federal Court seeking Dwight’s and Steven’s return to federal prison for the entire 5 years.*

Hammond Family

(t) In October 2015, the 9th District Court “resentenced” Dwight and Steven, requiring them to return to prison for several more years. Steven (46) has a wife and 3 children. Dwight (74) will leave Susan (74) to be alone after 55 years of marriage. If he survives, he will be 79 when he is released.

(u) During the court preceding the Hammonds were forced to grant the BLM first right of refusal. If the Hammonds ever sold their ranch they would have to sell it to the BLM.

(v) Dwight and Steven are ordered to report to federal prison again on January 4th, 2016 to begin their resentencing. Both their wives will have to manage the ranch for several years without them. To date they have paid $200,000 to the BLM, and the remainder $200,000 must be paid before the end of this year (2015). If the Hammonds cannot pay the fines to the BLM, they will be forced to sell the ranch to the BLM or face further prosecution.

Notes:

S*  Rhonda Karges – Resource Field Manager for the BLM is the wife of Chad Karges Refuge Manager for the Malheur Wildlife refuge.

Rhonda specifically deals with all the BLM issues relating to the area in and around Hammonds property including “grazing denial”. Her husband just happens to be the person in charge of all the issues surrounding the Hammonds ranch such as “water and access”.

b*   Soon after the water rights dispute the federal government influenced the State of Oregon to change their water law in favor of federal agencies. Wildlife is now considered in the State of Oregon as an accepted beneficial use for government agencies only.

k*  Being convicted as Terrorist made the Hammonds felons. They have been striped of their right to have guns. The Hammond live 53 miles from the closets town and have no practical way of defending themselves or their cattle. Several times they have watched baby calves be eaten by predators and could do nothing to prevent it.

Conclusion 

The abuses and corruptions affecting people like the Hammonds are symptoms of a more encompassing problem.  Government employees (fulltime & elected) have changed their culture from one of service to, and respect for the people, to the roll of being a masters. On the subject of the land, it is evident that government employees are no longer assisting the people in claiming, using and defending property. Instead, they have become the people’s competitor to the benefits of the land, and are willing to use force on those who they erroneously compete against.

The federal government adversely controls over 582,000,000 acres of the western lands, 51% of the entire western land mass. They also have recently begun claiming over 72% of western resources such as the sub-surface minerals, forestry and waters. This is in comparison to 4.29% federally controlled land in the east.

The impact of the federal government controlling the land and resources inside the western states is hard to calculate. The negative impact on the people can be seen economically, politically, and socially. In order for any people to survive, let alone prosper, it takes the land and resources to do it. Everything we eat, the clothing we wear, the homes we live in, the cars we drive, and so on, come from the earth. All physical comfort and prosperity originates from the earth. Individuals composing the federal government, understanding the origination of wealth, are reserving these resources for themselves and are willing to use force to retain them. The ramifications of their action are slowly forcing the people of the west into poverty.

Due to the fact that people cannot survive without land and resource, the federal government’s action in administering the lands for their own benefit will be the cause of public discontent and unrest until it is corrected.

The solution is very simple, the land and resources must be made available to its rightful owners, the people. This can be done peacefully if the states & counties would check and balance the federal government as designed. When this happens, the people will begin to prosper and much of the economical, political and social problem of the west will diminish. Prosperity, peace and tranquility will be the results.

Thank you,

Ammon Bundy

Bundy Family

Links

Letter to Harney County Sheriff – David Ward: http://bundyranch.blogspot.com/2015/11/letter-to-sheriff-ward-harney-county.html

Facts & Events : http://bundyranch.blogspot.com/2015/11/facts-events-in-hammond-case.html

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Judge Jeanine Connects the Dots of the Bundy Ranch Invasion to ‘Dirty Harry’ Reid

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Lawyer, KrisAnne Hall, says Bundy, Finicum, and many ranchers like them are victims of UNCONSTITUTIONAL practices by the BLM. Must watch and share…


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Merle Jones We need to get rid of the BLM and the EPA. They are corrupt and it ruining this country. The BLM is stealing land and politicians such as Harry Reid and Hillary Clinton are selling the mineral rights to foreign countries.

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Mark McGhee People really need to wake up and pay attention to this. The BLM is yet another example of government overreach and simply a vehicle for the government to literally STEAL property from hard working ranchers and farmers. It’s an AntiAmerican Bastardization of what the founding fathers intended government to be. #TRUMP2016🇺🇸

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Merle Jones KrisAnne is right. The land belongs to the states not the federal government. The western states and Texas are fighting with the BLM now. Ranchers are losing land that has been in their families for generations. The corruption in the BLM caused the death of Lavoy Finicum and good men , patriot ranchers sit in jail without bail. This is so wrong. They even jailed a journalist who spoke against the BLM. He is facing a long prison term. That is a violation of the 1st amendment of free speech. This is tyranny.

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Noel Holub Reid wanted the land Bundy leased for his son to build wind farms with the Chinese. Hillary wants the land so she can sell more uranium to the Russians but the uranium is on tribal lands. Wonder how they are going to get that?

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Melissa Suchovsky The BLM along with too many other Federal Departments are UNCONSTITUTIONAL PERIOD! No where in the Constitution is the Federal Government given these Lawless Departments! There are THREE BRANCHES OF FEDERAL GOVERNMENT it is specific and clear in the Constitution! WE are to blame for all this Corrupt Lawlessness!

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Beth Pellandini Been there done that, BLM teams up with environmentalists and goes after ranchers and farmers going so far as planting ‘evidence’ of endangered species so they can grab land to protect these bogus critters!!

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The big agriculture backed FDA along with the Department of Justice (DOJ) started the harassment approximately four years ago just because the hard-working farmer was producing raw milk and supplying some of the organic food co-ops. Thankfully, the government’s steady war on small farmers was halted in this particular case.  Sheriff Rogers, authored a 600-word break down of the ordeal for the local newspaper in his contribution column called “Ask The Sheriff”.

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Sheriff Rogers wrote to the DOJ and let them know that he would take action if the federal inspectors came without a signed warrant that specified probable cause to give a clear reason why they needed to conduct their invasive searches:
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Sheriff Brad RogersSheriff Rogers exclaimed “Your local elected officials can stem the tide of federal overreach if they apply just a little backbone in supporting and defending the Constitution. Expect it! Demand it! Some bloggers and natural food writers have hailed me as a hero. I’m no hero. I’m just doing my job.”   He added, “Many of our parents/grandparents drank raw milk and survived. There are risks with raw milk, but careful handling and storage will mitigate the risk. Many people believe that raw milk is healthier to drink than the pasteurized version. There is no law in Indiana that prohibits the distribution of raw milk in this fashion. In short, I don’t believe the government should be our nanny and telling us what we can or cannot drink/eat.”

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Sheriff’s possess the most power in their home counties and are locally elected officials that can be a thorn in the side for the federal automatons that are hell-bent on the encroachment of Freedom. Blocking the government overreach in this instance can set forth an example for other sheriff’s to rise up and stand strong for the people they serve. The ultimate solution of educating the populous on how to repel the Tyranny can be accelerated with the continued support of these county bosses.

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Obama Signs Executive Order To Legalize BLM’s Land Grabs

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Published on May 13, 2014 By Georgette Washington

According to the release: The newly obtained 14 pages further detail plans within the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) to completely overhaul the way federal lands are managed in the U.S., including the creation of new ecosystem areas that require the acquisition of new federal lands. The plans would vastly expand the power, reach and control of federal land managers.

Furthermore, Bishop noted:

“These 14 pages are further evidence of this Administration’s efforts, under the guidance of Secretary Salazar, to control western lands by unilaterally locking them up without input from local residents and stakeholders nor the approval of Congress.

Their plotting behind closed doors is disingenuous at best and flies in the face of this Administration’s so-called ‘transparency'”

Hitting on the most subtle effects the Executive Order is set to have, Bishop included a few points from the 14 missing pages: Page 3, paragraph 6:

The sentence, “In order to expand this network of treasured lands to include the diversity of landscapes currently managed by the BLM…,” shows that the Administration is working to broaden the jurisdictional scope of lands currently managed by the BLM. Page 5, paragraph 5:

The sentence, “Should the legislative process not prove fruitful, or if a nationally significant natural or cultural land resource were to come under threat of imminent harm, the BLM would recommend that the Administration consider using the Antiquities Act…,” shows that the Administration is constructing a new management structure without the approval of Congress. Page 6 (b), page 7 (4.), page 8 (3.):

Details planning for further land acquisition and funding mechanisms. Page 7, paragraph 1; Page 6, paragraph 7:

By their own numbers, the Administration will target the “acute” problem of private landholdings in BLM administered areas to the sum of 412,675 acres, or more than 370,000 football fields. Page 9, paragraph 5:

The sentence, “The BLM recommends that any major funding increases be phased in over a five-year period to allow the BLM time to build capacity in order to accomplish the increased work-load,” shows that the BLM will require an increase in funding to accommodate the proposed expanded management of lands throughout the West.

Bishop concluded his released noting:

“I remain committed to forcing Secretary Salazar and all others involved in this matter into the light of full transparency, which as these documents prove, is not a place they seem to be comfortable. But this potential land and power grab needs to exposed, it needs to be laid out before the public, and it needs to be stopped.”

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Agenda 21 – Rural Land Executive Order signed by Obama

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Agenda 21 – Rural Land Executive Order signed by Obama

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While we were all distracted with Weiner’s weiner, President Obama signed yet another Executive Order, this one to take control of all Rural Lands across the heartland. If you live outside the city, look out the Feds are coming. To help you of course.

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In my post earlier today titled, Obama Wanted War: Now 150 Armed Militia Have Seized a Federal Building In Oregon, I promised I would provide updates if any became available to me, and since then, several have. 

First, I’d like to point out that the national media’s lack of attention to what is going on very troubling. This is a story in which a heavily armed militia (of which the infamous Bundy family is a part of), gathered from across the country to come to the defense of two men about to be imprisoned, and now they have taken control over a federal refuge where they are currently staked out, and the press has no interest?

There HAS to be more to this story! This is a HUGE red flag for me. In the following video, I break down what I know… 

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In my mind, I’m picturing another WACO, yet the press has no interest in the matter whatsoever.

That doesn’t add up, especially when we are led to believe the militia’s occupation of the federal refuge is intended to serve as a heavily fortified safe haven for Dwight Hammond Jr. and Steven Hammond, who are to report to prison on Monday, where they’ll be for the next five years as a result of a shady ongoing battle with the Bureau of Land Management (BLM). For more on what looks like a VERY sketchy case, a source more familiar with the situation referred me to an article in The Tri-State Livestock News. Part of that article reads:

Why the Hammonds?

“The story is like an onion, you just keep peeling back the layers,” Maupin said.

In an effort to stave off what they feared was a pending Clinton/Babbitt monument designation in 2000, a group of ranchers on the scenic Steens Mountain worked with Oregon Representative Greg Walden, a Republican, to draft and enact the Steens Mountain Cooperative Management and Protection Act that would prevent such a deed. The ranchers agreed to work with special interest “environmental” groups like the aggressive Oregon Natural Desert Association and others to protect the higher-than 10,000-foot peak.

A number of ranchers at the top of the mountain traded their BLM permits and private property for land on the valley floor, allowing Congress to create a 170,000 acre wilderness in 2000, with almost 100,000 acres being “cow-free.”

“The last holdouts on that cow-free wilderness are the Hammonds,” said Maupin. Though some still have BLM grazing permits, the Hammonds are the last private landowners in the area.

“It’s become more and more obvious over the years that the BLM and the wildlife refuge want that ranch. It would tie in with what they have,” said Rusty Inglis, an area rancher and retired U.S. Forest Service employee.

Rusty Inglis, the local area rancher and retired U.S. Forest Service employee who is mentioned in the article, made the comment, “It would tie in with what they have,” referring to the Hammond Ranch.

That begs the question, what exactly is it that they (the feds) have?

The answer to that question comes from another source, who sent me the video below. Aside from the video’s title, “EMERGENCY – Obama Ordered Hammond Ranch Destroyed,” there are several other things that are very troubling, the first of which is the date.

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The video was uploaded one day before the scheduled protest , which was the same day the militia took over the federal refuge, or January 1st.

Why would Obama order the ranch destroyed before any of the last 24’s events took place?

From what YouTuber William Mount says, there is MUCH more to this story, and in typical Obama fashion, it’s all absolutely FILTHY… every damn bit of it.

Mount says that “what the feds have” with the rest of the land surrounding the Hammond Ranch, is well documented in U.S. Geological Survey Bulletin 1740-B. Download it now before it gets taken down.

It turns out that the land the feds own, and the land in question at the Hammond Ranch have enormous amounts of Natural Gas, Uranium, Mercury, and Arsenic. 

If you follow me regularly, you know I cover the economy and the looming financial implosion of the U.S. Dollar very closely, and I’ve been saying for some time that the Dollar collapse is imminent.

William Mount reports that the Treasury Department is well aware of the pending crash and has plans to issue a new Dollar later in 2016, that will be backed by natural gas and oil, and the Hammond Ranch is the only thing holding up the extraction of the resources owned by the feds.

Furthermore, Mount says in an effort to appease our largest creditor, Obama has already cut a deal with the Chinese to take the Uranium for their nuclear program.    

At this point, if you’re like me, you’re thinking that all sounds nice, a bit far fetched perhaps, despite the supporting U.S. Geological Survey, but not impossible right? BUT, how exactly is all that mining going to get done, who’s going to do it, and how is the Uranium allegedly going to get to China?

Mount suggests none other than Democrat Congressmen DeFazio. He suggests “following the money.” When you do that, OpenSecrets.org shows that the bulk of Congressmen DeFazio’s campaign money all came from the following industries: air transit, transportation unions, building materials and equipment, railroads, and industrial unions.

Going even further, his top five individual donors were: Air Line Pilots Association Communications Workers of America, International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers, Unite Here, and Berkshire Hathaway. 

Uh… Ok. I suppose THAT is how the the mining will get done, and the Uranium shipped to China. Wow.

Mount says Obama’s feds have been harassing the Hammond Ranch very aggressively for a long time in an effort to get at the natural gas and Uranium resources the land holds, but to no avail.

Now, the feds have simplified their plan: Toss the Hammond’s in prison for a grossly excessive sentence, and see to it that they meet unfortunate and untimely deaths while there. Remember, per the article, “In the Hammonds’ plea agreement in the 2012 trial, the BLM obtained the first right of refusal should the family have to sell their private land,” or if they should happen to come to an early dirt nap “retirement” so to speak. 

Property rights attorney Karen Budd-Falen from Cheyenne, Wyoming, brings up a fascinating point as it relates to the prison sentence. She says, “What totally amazes me is what these guys did – they burned 140 acres. If you compare that to the EPA spill in Colorado, it amazes me that NOTHING will happen to those EPA employees.”

With respect to the EPA folks, she goes on, “You have cities down there [in Colorado] with no drinking water.

The Hammonds didn’t do anything like that,” and with the well documented deposits they are sitting on, there sentence is all just a coincidence? Please! There are never coincidences with Obama. There are only schemes. 

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I realize none of that gives us an update on what is going on with the “standoff,” but all of that is CRUCIAL information to understanding what nefarious plot Obama is hatching now.  I don’t declare that I have all the answers, and I certainly don’t claim that’s the alpha and the omega of the matter. Hardly!

My goal here, as with most things, is to keep digging and asking questions, because I know when something smells rotten, and the fact that there has been no media on this, doesn’t pass the smell test.

Furthermore, the video pre-dating these recent events makes me wonder if Obama knew about the plans to take the refuge… meaning does he have a mole (or several) “in” with the militia. After all, Carol Bundy Did Send Out an Email Nationwide Issuing a Call to Arms For Militia to Join Them in Oregon For a Standoff With the Feds.

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Hell, I got a copy of it… so anyone could have.

Depending on how long this drags out, this could also be a trap. Recall that the Oregon Live reported:

“We’re planning on staying here for years, absolutely,” he added. “This is not a decision we’ve made at the last minute.”

Neither man would say how many people are in the building or whether they are armed. Ryan Bundy said there were no hostages, but the group is demanding that the Hammonds be released and the federal government relinquish control of the Malheur National Forest.

He said many would be willing to fight — and die, if necessary — to defend what they see as constitutionally protected rights for states, counties and individuals to manage local lands. 

I’m not in law enforcement, but if it were me running the show, and I wanted to make an example of what happens to insurrections like the one taking place, I’d lay low, and hope the situation draws a bigger crowd of militia members to support those already there, and then in one big swoop, deal with them all…. but that’s me.

My point is, there is always a bigger picture taking place… and by the media not even biting, that tells me that they are at least one step ahead.

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  • 100% Pure Propaganda BS..

    Its All Lies… :mrgreen:

    • What is 100% Propaganda BS? The Feds or this author?
      Yes the Feds are 100% LIES.
      In contrast, the author is very credible.

      • The publisher of this fake story is a propagandist just like Barry Davis…

        • Ammon Bundy – The Hammonds = Ammon Hammond

          Arm and Hammer Baking Soda – Communism/Socialism/Nazism/Satanism

          This Day in Jewish History 1990: Armand Hammer, Who Was Named for the Symbol of Socialism, Dies :lol:

          read more: http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/features/.premium-1.690726

          How is the hammer of the whole earth cut asunder and broken! how is Babylon become a desolation among the nations!…This is the work of the Lord God of hosts…
          — Jeremiah 50:23, 25

          SOME ARE MATCHING UP THE COSSACK AND MONGOL MOTORCYCLE GANG MEMBER FALSE FLAG TO THESE PROTESTERS IN OREGON :lol:

          Cossack’s and Mongols comes from AshkeNAZI Jews or Khazar Jews

      • the author very credible? ahhhhaahahahaaahah, that’s funny!

      • my vote is on the feds .

    • PoopPower is an obamabot troll!

      • dabu…you are correct…”PoopPower” stinks of an o-bot “Troll”, clearly just another limp wristed fascist spreading her stinky legs just like Hitlery Clinton.

        • LMFAO.

          LMFAO…

          • Till you pooped your panties princess…o-vomit is coming for you 1st. Stupid liberal idiot. Just like Hitler used you inbreeds… “useful liberal idiots” in WWII, then he ground your flesh up first, lampshades, rugs, pavement, no waiting, line up dumba$$!!!

    • This Hammond Ranch thing is upsetting, innocent children gonna get hurt because grown men cant follow orders, and want to play funny games. i sorrowfully expect this to be uncool. i delight only in the death of the wicked. im my eyes, giving a child a fright at all ever, is worthy of death. i truly pray there are no innocents there, it reeks of psyop trap, because when rome the insane sees advantage, it takes it, and i bet you there be freemasons involved. Anyone see any black onyx rings on any of the speakers? i have not bothered to look, im involved in more important things, like training my wifes block stat for her character on skyrim. “oooo Princess, you have 100 block an now you jus gotta find 20 cyrodilic spadetails and 20 abecinian longfins and ill forge you the one ring which can then improve smithin 900% an potions by 900% and then you can one hit normal dragons on legendary difficulty eh

    • Obama’s the Antichrist.
      I’m the Messiah and Jesus’ 2d Coming.
      Hurry to reveal it worldwide and be saved by that.

      • Paul Ryan is the Antichrist..

        http://www.paulryanantichrist.com/

        • Beware of false christs claiming Obama’s not the Antiochrist like PeoplePower here.
          Bill Clinton’s sex scandal’s now revealed and birther Trump is elected as US President.
          Obama’s the Antichrist.
          I’m the Messiah and Jesus’ 2d Coming.
          Hurry to reveal it worldwide and be saved by that.

          • Beware of homos like KOS. He’s spreading the gay agenda. Homos like him spread HIV and die years sooner than us straights.

            He said “I’m the Messiah and Jesus’ 2d Coming.”

            So you will only be here in 2 dimensions? That’s about what I’d expect from someone with a flat 2 dimensional brain.

          • 2d! XD GOOD PUN! The Clucker is no doubt refferin to indian in the machine’s 11 d an 5d stories, mah wifes a DD so HA

          • “mah wifes a DD so HA”

            +10 for Toucan Son of Sam’s wife and her big breasts!

          • OMF YOU MUST NEVER TELL HER I ONCE SED THAT HERE!

          • I would never tell on a fellow bird. Your secret is safe with The Clucker.

      • GIVE IT A REST.. If You’re Jesus why haven’t you done anything yet?!! You should NOT mock God. If anything “sham” bala.. You are of an Antichrist spirit…. You need to stop playing around with God.

        God promised that there would be people who would mock him in the last days….
        2 Peter 3:3 ” Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires.

        I WILL continue to pray for you.

        We are marching on like sheeple to the slaughter of the New World Order. Just blindly following our government and the world; not asking questions and relying on our cellphones; our iPods; our reality TV; our sports teams. Relying on EVERYTHING OTHER than the one who craves relationship with us…..

        God created you to know him personally. Psalm 139:13-14 “You created every part of me and put me together in my mother’s womb.”
        John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son so that whosoever would believe in him would not perish but have everlasting life.”

        Jesus Christ is God’s only solution for our Sin.. For the wages of sin is death. He died in our place
        Romans 5:8 “But God showed hsi great love for us by sending Christ to die for us while were still yet sinners.”

        He rose from the dead:
        1 Corinthians 15: 3-6 “Christ died for our sins.. he was buried, and he was raised from the dead on the third day…He was seen by Peter and then by the twelve apostles.. After that he was seen by more than five hundred”

        Through Jesus alone we can know God personally and experience God’s love.
        HE IS THE ONLY WAY TO GOD…
        John 4: 6 “Jesus said to them, ‘ I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

        We must believe in and receive Christ.
        John 1:12 “to all who received him, he gave the right to become children of God. All they had to do was to trust and believe in Jesus to be saved.”

        We receive Christ by FAITH
        God promised eternal life to all who receive Christ
        1 John 5: 12-13 “Whoever has God’s Son has life; whoever does not have His Son, does not have life. I have written this to you who believe in the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.”

        GOD BLESS YOU….

        • Guess what bozo? Your prayers would be far more welcome with people in real need and that for that wacko of a frenchie who should stop being an a&shole and take his meds.

  • Dr. William Mount, in my opinion, is disturbed. Go to Youtube and view his videos. He appears very intelligent but there’s a screw loose. For example take a look at his GMO killed my chicken “Goldie” video. A screw is loose.

    • Dr. William Mount Works for the UN and Lucifer Trust He Even Admitted It :lol:

      The global religion envisioned by Wells was a secular, socialist one, but some of his fellow Fabians had migrated from atheism to the occult. Two of the most important pilgrims of that variety were radical feminist Annie Besant and British journalist and newspaper publisher William Stead.

      Besant became a fervent disciple of Madame Helena Blavatsky, the occultist, satanist founder of the modern Theosophical movement. Besant eventually became the international president of the Theosophical Society.

      Alice and Foster Bailey, who succeeded Annie Besant, unabashedly revealed their demonic sympathies with the launching of Lucifer Publishing Company and its theosophical journal, Lucifer. Later, however, they realized that the Christian West was still too “unenlightened” to accept open Luciferian doctrine and changed the name of Lucifer Publishing Company to the more esoteric (and less likely to offend) Lucis Publishing Company.

      They also established the Lucis Trust to serve as the umbrella organization for a profusion of globalist/New Age/occult organizations and programs that are key catalysts of the emerging new world religion. These include the Arcane School, World Goodwill, Triangles, Lucis Publishing, Lucis Productions, Lucis Trust Libraries, and the New Group of World Servers.11

      According to the Lucis Trust,

      “World Goodwill is recognized … at the United Nations as a Non-governmental Organisation” and is “represented at regular briefing sessions at the United Nations in New York and Geneva.”12

      The “regular weekly broadcasts of talks given at World Goodwill Forum meetings and programs produced by Lucis Productions” in London and New York are beamed by Radio For Peace International in English, Spanish, German, and French, on shortwave, to a “worldwide audience” from the UN University for Peace in Costa Rica.13

      • Who has vetted “Dr.” William Mounts credentials? If you look at some of his videos on Youtube, he is clearly not always in his right mind. Such as “We use to order nuclear weapons from Walmart” when I was a captain. I know this sounds crazy but this is what he said in one of his videos about “What’s Going On At Walmart.” Look it up. This man has several screws loose and people keep quoting him.

        There may be uranium and gas under the Hammond property, but Mount is way out there if you study his material closely. I would not use him as a source or take his word.

      • OH GIVE US A BREAK…really, ‘red’ cock…sounds like another ‘cock & bull’ story of yours, to me…Dr.Mount ‘once’ worked for, and was in the Lucis Trust…HE GOT OUT…he’s now a Christian believer…sorry to burst your disinfo babble/bubble…

        what is it with men, any ways…so quick to deceive…and lead astray… :wink: L.

  • YOU MUST WATCH THIS VIDEO.Beneath the Hammond Ranch lies a substantial amount of natural gas, uranium and other rare earth minerals. This is confirmed by a survey. All the info. is on this video put out by William
    mount. It sure fills in a whole lot of blanks. All the judges and politicians are bought and paid for.
    make this video viral. Add it to every comment you make the truth that the scum that say are our servants must be shown for what they are. Words are not enough to describe the filth that run the United States.

    • That information came, originally, from a whistleblower who used to work for the B.L.M. – not Dr.Mount, whom, I perceive to be, quite credible…he is just confirming or re-addressing the info…the Whistleblower’s name is Rusty Hill…very interesting interview done by Gary Franchi at News Network… :wink: L.

  • only one problem with your theory,
    The hammonds could just lease the mineral rights to their property, for a ton of money,to some big company that could mine all the gas, oil, uranium, gold, diamonds or whatever else you think might be on their property.
    The money from leasing the mineral rights would be more than enough to pay the ranch off and buy another ranch somewhere else.

    • A thief can only view others from the eyes of a thief.

      In 1964 the Hammonds purchased their ranch in the Harney Basin, they are ranchers not profiteers nor thieves.

      Why would they even think of becoming like the poison that has been attempting to steal theirs and others lands for years?
      Some people have morals and have not sold their souls.

    • tardass,
      you don’t know Oregon land laws and or BLM land laws, ALMOST all land in Oregon does NOT give the mineral rights to the land owner! so they can take the minerals and if needed force you off your land as they do it!.

      • Oregon was once a Spanish territory therefore its Ranchos and Native Americans were okupas during the period when both Spain and Mexico abandoned them under Adverse Possession, the Spanish crown left the population on the land and did not collect rents/taxation and only conceded claims to the US in the late 1800′s. The state of Oregon is probably if looked into owned by a few hundred people and there is no such thing as public land or BLM federal land, same as most of the West.

  • They threw the Syrians out of their country to acquire their resources! In Amerika, government terrorists do the same thing. They are ALWAYS after some precious natural resource and lie, cheat, steal and kill to get them! Here’s another instance: Senator Diane Feinstein: “The Modern Jesse James”; THE GREAT GOLD HEIST: http://www.uhuh.com/1calfraud/stacks/bixman.htm

  • Hammond Organ, thought that was an instrument in Obama’s hand waiting to unload.

  • Arrest these so called patriots! What an embarrassment they are! They don’t even know what they want… where were they five years ago? If they use weapons to threaten law enforcement they should be dealt with harshly. Fools!

    • you will note – this Pa225p just popped up out of nowhere…total AGENT PROVOCATEUR…RED ALERT…L.

  • The feds have screwed the hammonds and a lot of other ranchers in America, but this is based on a guy who is a complete nut job! The segway into his video is his claim that he personally, and single handedly saved the president (obummer) from a nuclear car bomb. I didn’t feel a need to watch any further!

  • If you google the UN NWO Agenda 21 Map of the US, you’ll see how much land the gov’t needs to steal, as areas are designated “Off Limits” to ” The Citizens “. If you followed the Bundy Ranch incident, you’d have seen how Reid’s son forced several ranchers off their land & Bundy was a hold out. The land is rich in oil & gas. Rumor was, Obama had “traded it” to China for loans. BLM actually secured fake “wind farm permits” for the land, which were to be a cover for China’s oil rigs. The Bundy incident highlighted the reason China never came in to drill…. China demands the US citizens be disarmed, before they will come in & work the land.

  • Sheesh You farmers are stupid. Call yourselves a Muslim enclave and the President will support you and send in the army to make sure you and the financial support he hands out to you is protected. Just saying. :idea:

  • Lack of msm attention? It was the main story on the news tonight, and every news site is reporting it.

    See, you have to wait for the main stream media to be on, before you can really comment on their lack of covering something..
    This story in a nutshell: some hicks broke the law, committed arson, were tried and convicted. The local judge that handled it, gave them a weak sentence. Then they realized that the amount of time they served, was too weak, because we have laws for a reason.

    So these hicks friends now are stomping their feet and getting angry, because people broke the law, the courts demanded criminals pay the proper penalty.

    So now a group of 50 to 80 hicks with guns, have for no good reason at all, taken over a small parks and rec building, and are demanding what?

    Oh, just that a man be released from jail early, and that federally owned land be given to him. That’s all.

    These idiot hicks, are terrorists. Look up the definition of you think you need to be a Muslim to be a terrorist.

    It’s also clear with the Bundy involvment that what they’re really trying to do is kick up a storm across the country. The problem is, most of us don’t live in towns with a population smaller than the crowds at a mall on Saturday, so, no one is going to follow in these idiot terrorists footsteps.

    By Monday night they’ll all be surrendered or dead. And a week later no one will care.

    • @A Witness,
      My gosh, you was almost right about maybe 1 or 2 things, but overall your comment totally out of line.
      You stated,
      “By Monday night they’ll all be surrendered or dead. And a week later no one will care.”
      Yeah, most in the their controlled bubbles, walking, twitting, and grossly unremarkable as they continue neurologically connected to their Social media Program FB.

      Although there is much going on in the world today, as the world is witness to.
      The Middle-East is in total Chaos with much carnage, and in today’s world, with all the Technology information is spreading at light speed.

      You also stated “This story in a nutshell:” your right, no one so far has the facts, although, you continue without knowing everything, and throw around dis info.

      You continue by stating,
      “These idiot hicks, are terrorists. Look up the definition of you think you need to be a Muslim to be a terrorist.”
      Again, you want to be Judge, Jury, and Executioner, and are clueless about the facts surrounding this. You must be getting your info from Main Stream Media, channel surfing your Soaps. You sound like you are ready to gear up?
      By your statements, You seem to be programmed in your bubble you are unable to think clearly, and logical, just another drone in the hive system.

      Some fail to see the Bigger Picture, Saudi Arabia has formed a coalition of 34 mainly Muslim countries to fight Terrorist, Yeah Right!!! in their eyes every western country is the a Terrorist State.
      People hear the term “Saudi Arabia Anti-Terrorism Army Coalition, the falsely think this army is helping, NO, everyone Muslim Armys eyes, every American is a Terrorist. Around 34 Muslim Countries have formed these Armies, with Saudi Arabia, and Turkey in the lead.

      Now they do have the resources to attack on a large scale, yes they could actually invade. Do they care if they win, No They Do not. Their main Tactical Goal is to strike fear in everyone.
      Friend, they have the resources to do an all out attack. Turkeys Leader Erdogan Hitler 2.0 in the lead now, and claiming to rule like Hitler, and, also claims to be in charge of this massive Muslim Army. Looking at history, Hitler 2.0 will not hesitate to invade any country.
      The Muslim Coalition Army has been training, and they have all the resources, including Air-lift, yes they have enough planes for a large invasion. Para troopers in action, fill the skies, along with chuted equipment, and they can do this Very Fast, dropping behind the lines, then also they would be broad casting some message for a total uprising, as they already have people strategically placed in western countries, as reported on by every single news sites.
      The Arab/Turkish Coalition could be Gearing up right now. Lets hope not, because Enough would get through to inflict Massive Chaotic Carnage.
      As the World is witness to, there is a lot of Chaotic events going on, all one has to do is read the news headlines.
      Friends, this Ranch situation going on, needs to be solved by both sides having a discussion, and using the real facts surrounding this in a civil manner.

      We will see what happens, although hopefully this will end with a peaceful solution.

      • So, in your “opinion”, what are the “facts.” Ha hahaha. And, I doubt more than 1 percent of you will get what I just said. :twisted:

    • A WITNESS, MY A*@…you are no ‘witness’, Pal…I suggest you go to YouTube and watch the video evidence of B.L.M.Feds. burning land to destroy property and kill ranchers’ animals…you are despicable in your support of their actions & therefore, become complicit, with every act of TERROR THEY PERPETRATE against the American People…
      the people who stand behind, this Despotic Regime, are mind-controlled sycophants, who cannot think for themselves any more…they are to be pitied, reprobate/miscreant in all thought/action.

      :idea: L.

  • Y’all need to SLOW your ROW – Being Incite full only breeds hate and discontent.
    Whoever posted this ad is clearly looking to incite more fury when it’s not needed….

    Do not make this into anything bigger than it is. If the Hammond family wants / needs help then they will ask for it, and at this point that has not happened. Please be clear – Defending the family is not what is being asked for. Check out the OathKeepers official statement on this. And for additional clarity- no one agrees with what is happening – Clearly there are some lines being crossed and questionable actions have certainly occurred from some organizations. However, at this point in time there has been no request for help. Listen to the OathKeepers – https://youtu.be/yP5fklV0c54

    If you do happen to go, or happen to currently be there, KEEP IT PEACEFUL, period.
    There is nothing here that warrants any escalated response… if any fight breaks out they will use this against the Patriots and it will only solidify their position for more GUN CONTROL. Do not let them play you – and lead you into this… PEACEFUL PROTESTS ONLY.

  • Videos have been removed.
    Please post them in a non oppressor-controlled site.

  • so what part of this isn’t terrorism: 100 armed men who take over a federal building yelling people if they are removed, they will use violence….

    #yallqaeda

    • Oh they’re 100% terrorists, they fit the definition perfectly.

      #VanillaISIS

    • DISINFO RED ALERT – COINTELPRO – RED ALERT…twisting of facts/exclusion of detail/support for regime at expense of the PEOPLE/sensational exaggeration…the mark of a shill…

      I will TELL YOU, what is Terrorism and what is NOT…

      bringing guns to shoot up an unsuspecting crowd of people – THAT’S TERRORISM.

      bringing guns to support others who are being terrorized by a TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT – THAT’S NOT TERRORISM.

      MAN, GET A CLUE…

      what happened at THE OKLAHOMA FEDERAL BUILDING WAS ‘TERRORISM’ BY THE GOVT.
      what happened to the ‘public lands’ adjacent to the Hammonds, etc. WAS TERRORISM BY THE GOVT.

      what happened to the unoccupied Federal Building, out in the middle of nowhere, miles from the public, was a STATEMENT, nothing more…it IS, AND WAS NOT, TERRORISM…noone has been harmed, noone has been made to be afraid.

      can you not GET IT that ‘if people are removed, they will use violence’ is a DEFENSIVE action, not OFFENSIVE…

      if B.L.M./ETC., FOLLOWS AN ORDER BY OBAMA TO ATTACK THE RANCHERS, THEY WILL BE REPEATING HISTORY – BRANCH DAVIDIANS IN WACO – THEY NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT VERY SOBERLY… :wink:

      THAT IS, if there are women and children with them at that building…

      the Branch Davidians had 26 children, in that compound, if I have that count correct…those that were ordered by Clinton to carry out that massacre, had to live with that on their conscience for the rest of their sorry lives; some, may still be with us…and yes, Clinton was responsible for that massacre…anyone who would support the Clintons retaking power, needs to have their head examined… :idea: L.

  • The UCC (Uniform Commercial Code) defines the authority of the federal government over, Washington D.C., Guam and Puerto Rico. The rest is conserved to the States and the people within the States. DC is a criminal org overstepping their authority. And they damn sure fail to represent the people.

    Apparently DC represents the “United Nations” and The Global Elite aka The New World Order. Presently their USING the Muslims and Islam to bring about their New World Order. Pity the Muslims who do their dirty deeds after it’s all said and done. They have vaccines to exterminate the Muslims afterwards. Vaccines which will be sprayed by air. No way to refuse “TREATMENT”. If you breath you get it.

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  • It must be powerful and fun to own all the teams – to get the fans of competing teams to hate each other while the spoils are collected.Controlling the toy soldiers on the game board and coming to the preferred outcome as quick or slow as you want. Oh the sport must be exhilarating for megalomaniacs.
    Treason? What is this word you speak about? There is no such word as the things once good are now deemed evil, whereas what was once evil is now sold to the blind flock as good.

  • America, you have elected the biggest crooks the world has ever seen to head your country. You have allowed your deserving presidents to be murdered, some live on national television, and nothing was done. You have stood by and allowed your kids to murder and steal abroad in the name of these same crooks that are now hunting you down. You have ignored the warnings of lions and listened to weasels instead.

    I can’t help thinking that you had it coming.

  • Let’s see what the “other side”, errrr. the “law and order” side, says. Anybody here remember that rallying cry? Law and order, hmmmm?:

    Eastern Oregon Ranchers Convicted of Arson Resentenced to Five Years in Prison

    EUGENE, Ore. – Dwight Lincoln Hammond, Jr., 73, and his son, Steven Dwight Hammond, 46, both residents of Diamond, Oregon in Harney County, were sentenced to five years in prison by Chief U.S. District Judge Ann Aiken for arsons they committed on federal lands.

    A jury sitting in Pendleton, Oregon found the Hammonds guilty of the arsons after a two-week trial in June 2012. The trial involved allegations that the Hammonds, owners of Hammond Ranches, Inc., ignited a series of fires on lands managed by the U.S. Bureau of Land Management (BLM), on which the Hammonds had grazing rights leased to them for their cattle operation.

    The jury convicted both of the Hammonds of using fire to destroy federal property for a 2001 arson known as the Hardie-Hammond Fire, located in the Steens Mountain Cooperative Management and Protection Area. Witnesses at trial, including a relative of the Hammonds, testified the arson occurred shortly after Steven Hammond and his hunting party illegally slaughtered several deer on BLM property. Jurors were told that Steven Hammond handed out “Strike Anywhere” matches with instructions that they be lit and dropped on the ground because they were going to “light up the whole country on fire.” One witness testified that he barely escaped the eight to ten foot high flames caused by the arson. The fire consumed 139 acres of public land and destroyed all evidence of the game violations. After committing the arson, Steven Hammond called the BLM office in Burns, Oregon and claimed the fire was started on Hammond property to burn off invasive species and had inadvertently burned onto public lands. Dwight and Steven Hammond told one of their relatives to keep his mouth shut and that nobody needed to know about the fire.

    The jury also convicted Steven Hammond of using fire to destroy federal property regarding a 2006 arson known as the Krumbo Butte Fire located in the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge and Steen Mountain Cooperative Management and Protection Area. An August lightning storm started numerous fires and a burn ban was in effect while BLM firefighters fought those fires. Despite the ban, without permission or notification to BLM, Steven Hammond started several “back fires” in an attempt save the ranch’s winter feed. The fires burned onto public land and were seen by BLM firefighters camped nearby. The firefighters took steps to ensure their safety and reported the arsons.

    By law, arson on federal land carries a five-year mandatory minimum sentence. When the Hammonds were originally sentenced, they argued that the five-year mandatory minimum terms were unconstitutional and the trial court agreed and imposed sentences well below what the law required based upon the jury’s verdicts. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, however, upheld the federal law, reasoning that “given the seriousness of arson, a five-year sentence is not grossly disproportionate to the offense.” The court vacated the original, unlawful sentences and ordered that the Hammonds be resentenced “in compliance with the law.” In March 2015, the Supreme Court rejected the Hammonds’ petitions for certiorari. Today, Chief Judge Aiken imposed five year prison terms on each of the Hammonds, with credit for time they already served.

    “We all know the devastating effects that are caused by wildfires. Fires intentionally and illegally set on public lands, even those in a remote area, threaten property and residents and endanger firefighters called to battle the blaze” stated Acting U.S. Attorney Billy Williams.

    “Congress sought to ensure that anyone who maliciously damages United States’ property by fire will serve at least 5 years in prison. These sentences are intended to be long enough to deter those like the Hammonds who disregard the law and place fire fighters and others in jeopardy.”

    • Doggy,
      What bs, you worded that mess to suit your own needs. All your trying to do is stir the pot. You probably, right now walking around in your under wear, wearing your vest, and gear, salivating because your in such a hurry to go hurt someone, forgot to put on the pants.
      You should be very ashamed of yourself.

      If your in such a hurry, to go create an un necessary conflict, why don’t you go join ISIS, because that’s who you sound like.
      If you hate America so much, Turkey may accept you.

      • Sorry, but your remark is typical of what I find on this site. I did not word this at all. It is from the feds. So, again, take two REALLY big breaths before you send your next missive, THINK, not react.
        Reverting to name calling suggests that you are defensive, and therefore, find my opinion valid.

        • @dog do,

          With you stating that anyone is reverting to name calling is clear evidence witnessed by everyone, that you should immediately install NetNanny to insure you do not get your feeling hurt.

          • And, I believe you should return to school. I did not “get my ‘feeling’ hurt.” First, it’s feelings. Second, why are you also reverting to a form of name-calling? Let’s see if i can follow your “logic”: you offer no proof to the contrary, so you intend to belittle someone with absolutely no argument other than to belittle. Great argument. Facts pertaining to the above subject, pls. Not hyperbole.

        • @dog do,

          Next time, brush up on English 101, and get your quotes right, and learn how to give proper credit, you think that might help?

          • Once again, to what do you refer? Facts, pls. Not hyperbole.

          • I’m waiting patiently.

          • Still waiting…

          • Ditto…..

          • First, it’s english, not English. Second, you don’t need an “and” following your comma. Third, your last semi-thought needs a semicolon. Or, a period. You think that might help? :lol:

          • And, still waiting. As I said, typical. Name calling is no argument at all. Ask Mr. Trump! He’s an expert. :lol:

          • Still, and still waiting…. :lol:

        • And, waiting still!!! :lol:

          • DOGGY DO…you must have a really boring life, pal…with all that cleaning up of ‘doggy do’ and mutiple comments of ‘waiting still’…what? no woman to keep your warm on those cold, lonely nights?… :wink: L.

    • Not so much what you state as what is left out. The devil is in the details. Details – decades of abuse and heavy handed misuse of the Hammonds and their ranch.

    • NOW…WHERE’S THE CLAUSE IN THE LAW, THAT ADDRESSES THE FEDERAL GOVT. MALICIOUSLY DAMAGING PRIVATE LAND & PROPERTY?…WHERE DOES THE LAW ADDRESS THE ARREST/CONVICTION OF THOSE WHO ARE ORDERED TO DESTROY PROPERTY/TERRORIZE CITIZENS?
      WHERE’S THE CLAUSE THAT SEEKS TO ARREST/ETC. MEMBERS OF CONGRESS OR LEADERS THAT ISSUE EDICTS/ORDERS TO SUBORDINATES TO DESTROY/TERRORIZE CITIZENRY?

      HMMM?… :wink: L.

  • This staged news event in Or is all a FBI/Obummer staged FALSE FLAG to help the Feds to get the new gun laws passed into law. ALL FAKE!!!!!

    • Did yo know also that the sky above you is all fake? it’s a glass/plastic hybrid created by aliens when the earth was formed 500 years ago by Dirgo the Magnificent, king of Planet X and Niburu. :wink:

      • Either her, or that all-seer of all things, the king of sha-na-na. :lol:

    • >DennisB, anything is possible in today’s world, so much covert actions taking place.
      There seems to be a lot of Dis Info surrounding this whole story.
      That is why people should get the real facts.

  • Text

    Paper

    Oregon occupiers seek a revolution
    Government’s control of land is main issue
    By Nigel Duara The Los Angeles Times (TNS)
    PORTLAND — Armed activists who have seized control of part of a federal wildlife refuge in southern Oregon appear to be aiming “to overthrow the county and federal government,” a local law enforcement official said Sunday.
    They came from as far as Idaho, Nevada and Arizona. And they want others from around the U.S. to join them.
    Harney County Sheriff David Ward said authorities from “several organizations” are working to peacefully resolve the standoff, which began Saturday when an unknown number of protesters occupied an uninhabited building at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, 30 miles from Burns, Ore. Earlier, about 150 people had gathered for a peaceful rally in support of Dwight and Steven Hammond, ranchers who are facing prison time for burning federal land.
    The main body of protesters sought to distance themselves from the breakaway group, which a leader said does not consider itself a militia and with which the Hammonds are unaffiliated.
    “These men came to Harney County claiming to be part of militia groups supporting local ranchers, when in reality, these men had alternative motives: to attempt to overthrow the county and federal government in hopes to spark a movement across the United States,” Ward said.
    For years, some Western conservatives have called for the return of federal lands to state and local government. The Sagebrush Rebellion of the 1980s centered on ranchers’ rights and money that could be made from timber harvesting, mining and ranching — if only the government didn’t forbid such endeavors.
    But those at the wildlife reserve say they are the vanguard of a national movement to resist government ownership of vast stretches of Western land. At the forefront are sons of Cliven Bundy, the Nevada rancher who in 2014 led a standoff against federal agents who sought to collect his cattle over a $1-million debt to the Bureau of Land Management for grazing fees.
    Hundreds flocked to Bundy’s ranch and, after weapons were pointed at agents, the standoff ended without Bundy paying fees or losing cattle.
    Officials worried the standoff would embolden the movement. At the rally before the occupation, Bundy’s son Ammon Bundy said: “We have a lot of plans.”
    Another son, Ryan Bundy, said Sunday that protesters want to restore local control and were prepared to occupy the area indefinitely. He accused the government of “tromping on people’s rights and privileges and properties and livelihoods.” The Oregonian quoted him as saying that “what we’re doing is in accordance with the Constitution.”
    There were no signs of confrontation Sunday, but police asked people to stay away for their safety.
    The Southern Poverty Law Center, in a report on the Bundy standoff, said the group and the land-return movement are on the same spectrum.
    “Antigovernment extremists have long pushed — most fiercely during Democratic administrations — rabid conspiracy theories about a nefarious New World Order, a socialist, gun-grabbing federal government and the evils of federal law enforcement,” it said.
    About a month ago, Ammon Bundy and others began arriving in Burns and agitated locals, who wondered what they were up to. By Saturday, the plan became clear, and the Bundys, via their ranch’s Face-book page, called for “all freedom-loving people” to help occupy the refuge.
    The Associated Press contributed.
    HOW A RALLY BECAME MORE
    Q: How did this start? A: Tension has been building for weeks around Burns, Ore., over the case of father and son Dwight Hammond, 73, and Steven Hammond, 46. They lit fires on federal land in 2001 and 2006 with the goal, they said, of curbing invasive plants and protecting their property from wildfires. They were convicted three years ago; the father served three months, and the son, one year. But in October, a federal judge ruled their terms too short under U.S. law and ordered them back to prison for about four years each. The protesters object to the prison sentence.
    Q: Who’s leading this? A: The most vocal groups are from outside the area. Ammon Bundy — son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, who was involved in a standoff with the government — is among them.
    Q: What happens now? A: Dwight Hammond has said he and his son plan to report to prison today as ordered by the judge. “We gave our word that’s what we would do, and we intend to act on it,” he said last week.
    The Associated Press

    LES ZAITZ/THE OREGONIAN VIA ASSOCIATED PRESS Protesters in Burns, Ore., march in support Saturday of two Oregon ranchers facing new punishment for burning federal land.

    • @dog do,

      There you go quoting some News source, and not giving proper credit.
      All it takes is a few bad apples to give a site a bad name, and your abusing BIN by not giving proper Credit. Some people claim it is the same thing a being a thief, when you Copy that much work, and not give credit.
      People work very hard to write articles, and dis like very much when someone copy, and paste it without giving credit, and the source.
      Your choice, although it is a bad one.

      • Hmm. “not giving proper credit.” I believe you missed the first sentence. And, the last. And the third, about 3/4 of the way from the top. Once again. Your argument is no argument at all. Please present facts. Not hyperbole.

        • All it takes is a few bad apples to give a site a bad name, and your abusing BIN. Why, would you look at that….you’re referring to yourself, it appears!

          Facts, pls., not hyperbole.

          • By the way, it’s “you’re,” not your in this instance. I feel bad that you keep making such basic grammatical errors. Facts, pls., not hyperbole.

      • Yeah, don’tcha just hate it when someone presents the facts, instead of opinion, specious accusations and hyperbole? :lol:

        • be careful, doggy do, I, too, have SPECIAL GRAMMATICAL/’E’NGLISH SKILLS…I am watching every keystroke you make, Pal… :roll: L.

      • mitch51

        You can say that in BIN where 99% of articles here are just cut and pasted, usually never giving the author credit? LMAO!

    • Six corporate monsters own 98% of all the media. Highly controlled propaganda daily sugar high for the addiction of the masses living a fantasy.

  • Whether or not this story is true is not the real issue. The issue is that as we continue in 2016 whenever there will be any kind of uprising against the government Mr. Obama will have it squelched. That man is leading this country down the road to his dictatorship and before anything erupts into something big he will have it removed. Obama is NOT stepping down in 2017. He will be here for many years to come.

    • Let us remember your words of opinion, especially please remember those words yourself. Come 2017, I fully expect you to be here on Jan. 21 to recant whenever whomever takes the oath of office. Deal? :wink:

    • Ernie,
      With the world conflicts so fluid, anything is possible.
      We will have to wait and see what is around the corner.

  • This is a HUGE red face.

  • This NSA-run site never ceases to amaze. BTW, has anyone here thought of that? This is the absolutely perfect way for such an organization to capture the names and all the information needed to keep track of you? Nah, I didn’t think you did. :lol:

    • better NOT!…William Binney is a friend of ours…L. :wink: no longer on ‘their side’ anymore… :lol:

  • Not all the media . There was a repost this morning about it on my local new station here in Canada . I spend most of this morning explaining it to my parents about what was going on .

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    Feds monitor armed protesters in Oregon but keep distance
    By REBECCA BOONE
    Jan. 4, 2016 11:14 AM EST
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    APTOPIX Ranching Standoff Protest
    Ryan Bundy talks on the phone at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge near Burns, Ore., Sunday,… Read more

    BURNS, Ore. (AP) — Armed anti-government protesters took over a remote national wildlife refuge in Oregon as part of a decades-long fight over public lands in the West while federal authorities are keeping watch but keeping their distance.

    Demonstrators came to the frozen high desert of eastern Oregon to contest the prison sentences of two ranchers who set fire to federal land, but their ultimate goal is turn over the property to local authorities so people can use it free of U.S. oversight.

    While the move isn’t new to Westerners, people across the globe have marveled that federal authorities didn’t move to take back the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. Residents say they haven’t seen a large presence of officers, and the government’s tactic generally is to monitor protesters from afar but leave them be as long as they don’t show signs of violence.

    That’s how federal officials defused a high-profile standoff last year with Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy over grazing rights. Now, Bundy’s two sons are leading the push in Oregon.

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    Ryan Bundy told The Associated Press on Sunday that he hopes the takeover will prompt others to take action across the country to seize control of federally managed land.

    “The end goal here is that we are here to restore the rights to the people here so that they can use the land and resources. All of them,” Bundy said.

    That means ranchers can graze their cattle on the land, miners can use their mineral rights, loggers can cut trees, and hunters and fishers can shoot and cast, he said.

    Residents of the tiny town of Burns, 30 miles south of the wildlife refuge, are concerned about the potential for violence.

    Keith Landon, a longtime resident and employee at the Reid Country Store, said he knows local law enforcement officials who fear their kids will be targeted by angry demonstrators.

    “I’m hoping most of it’s just muscle, trying to push,” he said. “But it’s a scary thing.”

    If the situation turns violent, Bundy contends that it will be because of the federal government’s actions.

    “I mean, we’re here to restore order, we’re here to restore rights, and that can go peacefully and easily,” he said.

    The ranchers whose cause has been the rallying cry also reject the protesters’ support. Dwight and son Steven Hammond were convicted of arson three years ago for fires on federal land in 2001 and 2006. They served their original sentences — Dwight, three months and Steven, one year — but a judge ruled that the terms were too short under federal minimum sentencing laws.

    Both men were ordered back to prison for four years each. They have said they plan to turn themselves in Monday.

    The Bundy brothers say the group plans to stay at the refuge as long as it takes. They declined to say how many people were at the property where several pickup trucks blocked the entrance and armed men wore camouflage and winter gear.

    “We’re planning on staying here for years, absolutely,” Ammon Bundy told reporters over the weekend. “This is not a decision we’ve made at the last minute.”

    The FBI is working with local and state authorities to “bring a peaceful resolution to the situation,” the bureau said in a statement late Sunday. It said it is the lead investigative agency and would not release details about the law enforcement response to ensure the safety of officers and those at the refuge.

    Some are criticizing the lack of action, saying it is because those occupying the property are white.

    Landon, the longtime Burns resident, said he sympathizes with the Bundys’ frustrations. Landon was a logger until the federal government declared the spotted owl a protected species in the 1980s, damaging the local logging industry.

    “It’s hard to discredit what they’re trying to do out there. But I don’t want anybody hurt,” he said.

    Landon said that on the surface, it doesn’t look like much has changed in Burns, a high desert town of about 2,700 people.

    “It’s weird — I woke up this morning expecting the town to be crawling with this and that agency. But you don’t see any of it. They’re keeping a low presence,” Landon said Sunday.

    However, most of the hotels in the area are booked, and he’s noticed that officers are doing their patrols in pairs instead of alone. The biggest difference since the takeover is the undercurrent of worry, he said.

    “I’m glad they took the refuge because it’s 30 miles away,” Landon said. “I mean, they could have took the courthouse here in town.”

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  • Yes confirmed. I just seen this on Tv News Station MSNBC.
    150 militia are in Oregon Federal Building holding agents. :eek:

    • scotty, scotty…’confirmed’ eh?…m.s.n.b.c. eh?…you have to be kidding?… :lol: …m.s.n.b.c. are the least credible of all the alphabet lamestream media…everything that comes out of that ‘operation’ is bull crap piled on top of more bullcrap – they have the lowest viewership of all the ‘news agencies’ so I find your comment rather amusing and uninformed… :roll: L.

  • This smells like another FBI false flag, just like the 1st WTC bombing where they were busted not only paying the guy to plant the bomb but also GIVING HIM the freaking bomb! It also smells like the Oklahoma City Bombing where the FBI was paying the freaking mortgage of Timothy McVeigh months prior to the ATF building explosion! Oh, and just like the Shoe Bomber where the FBI’s patsy carried out the stupid shoe bomb that didn’t do much of anything except instill more muslim fear.

    Anyone that believes this is a homegrown event, should do their research into ALL of the past federal stand-off events and bombings and see how our own government (hint WACO) manufactured the event to justify their own branch of the government’s spending.

    • I agree, this is another FBI FALSE FLAG event in Oregon.

  • All the alphabet soup agencies are not just reading news on this Site to track opposition, and are not conducting dis-info operations on this Site to ridicule opposition, but are trying to manipulate both alternative media sphere and any serious opposition into legal ground for their extermination as terrorists. This will not turn into another “last grand stand” of Alamo style, it will not spark any revolution, and no martyr blood will soak the tree of liberty… Feds will came soon, in dawn, with armed choppers provided by NG to blast everything with rockets and then to machine gun any survivor, right now military drones are used for tracking. They is preparing one giant massacre that will be used as pretext to track down and disarm/kill any opposition so my advice is “run and hide you fools” asap as this is death trap not just for you at that ranch but any militia and any patriot group ready to fight government oppression. So please disperse and live to fight and survive, and for anyone on government side who is reading this, please move away also, they are you countrymen, together you can heal and move this nation toward greatness again, or you will tear her apart with no hopes of recovery.

  • If this was true and you were a rancher knowing the feds want your ranch, would you not bend over backwards to not break any laws and give the feds an excuse to take it? These ranchers set illegals fires more than once, and illegally took several deer and burned the evidence on federal land, they endangered the lives of firefighters as well. So either this line of thought is pure BS or the Hammonds are total morons.

  • The story behind the story, There is a large uranium deposit… Under their land.

  • The only thing this lying, foreign national, criminal POTUS should be ordering is .. three meals a day in Leavenworth!

  • fred

    So the mining companies, which make up the top 1%, urge the Feds to kick people off this land so they can strip it of its minerals. They say to the feds “Treat these people as criminals and thrown them in jail if they refuse? Do we live in a democracy or an emerging Fascist State? If these people have lived and had cattle on this land for decades, what makes the mining companies think they can just come in and claim this for themselves?

  • The same people which did made Hussein Obama to the president of the USA, did also create the Holocaust!
    That is why everybody should have got one book about the Holocaust!

    “Debating the Holocaust” by Thomas Dalton
    https://shop.codoh.com/book/401/404

  • Montel will probably re-enlist in the Army so he can be barry’s drone operator.

  • about my lot, do u know bill McGehee

    whats the preachers name

    buckey & i went to school together, we both know newt n i was tellin’ bucky how i was letting the church use my land for pkn’ then he said, u know they can take that from u after so long thro intiment domain

    it’s been like 8 yrs but then i heard a dump emptyin’ in another area on my land. i called josh to ask what was goin’ on, well shannon did, he said, the somebody from the city asked HIM if they could dump there, HE told them yes, the next day, i heard them dumpin’ again

    shannon went out back to see what was being dumped

    it looked liked like concrete chips n stuff

    do you have josh whitley phone number

    shannon called the city n ask the the lady, why did they ask the pastor if they could bump there

    she said, we didn’t, we do not dump on private property

    we called josh then n told him what the city lady said

    i told shannon to tell them to stay off my property for lyin’ to med

    he got all huffy n said we wen’t using it anyway

    by that time shannon handed me the phone so i said, for lyn’ to me,just stay off my land

    he hung up, shannon said, did he jjust hang up on u
    yes he did
    shannon had the phone on speaker

    that land developer was so nice and assured me, that land will not be taken from me, i may put pigs back there, hehe

    Thank You so much Carla Wisner Allgood

    By Clint Siegner

    For the Capital Press

    Published:February 11, 2016 1:04PM

    Clint Siegner

    Clint Siegner
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    It is time to dispel a few myths about what is going on.

     

    Oregon Gov. Kate Brown sat in her office Jan. 20 and drafted a letter to the U.S. attorney general and the director of the FBI. She wrote that negotiations with the “radicals” occupying the Malheur Wildlife Refuge had failed and insisted on a “swift resolution to this matter.”

    Local officials, including Harney County Judge Steve Grasty, made similar demands. On Jan. 26, they got what they asked for.

    Authorities, including the FBI, ambushed and arrested Ammon Bundy and others on their way to a meeting in neighboring Grant County. They shot LaVoy Finicum dead. He was not holding a weapon.

    Awful. Grasty and Brown knew what might happen should the FBI decide negotiations had failed. Few have forgotten the stand­offs at Waco and Ruby Ridge and that “swift” federal action often means people die — in many cases, indiscriminately.

    It’s ironic, but the behavior of the judge and the governor goes a long way to make the refuge protesters’ case for them. Blind devotion to federal authority is terribly dangerous to lives and to liberty.

    The protest in Harney County will certainly not be the last over federal overreach. Here is hoping people find reason next time, before demanding dangerous federal intervention.

    To that end, it is time to dispel a few myths about what is going on.

    Myth 1: The armed people at the refuge were threatening violence. You wouldn’t know it by watching TV news, or reading Brown’s hysteric letter, but the refuge wasn’t an armed compound full of violent people. To find that, you needed to drive by the airport in Burns, Ore., where federal agents staged behind fences and a flood­lit perimeter, with military vehicles, equipment and weapons.

    Yes, the occupants at the refuge were armed and reserved the right to defend themselves. The difference between them and any other citizen claiming their Second Amendment right is they did so from inside public, and previously unoccupied, federal buildings.

    They got little credit for doing virtually everything possible to minimize threats and interruptions to the community. They could scarcely have chosen a more remote location.

    It was more like an open house than a compound. Locals could, and did, visit to see what the stand­off was about. The protesters invited anyone who wanted to have an honest conversation.

    For Oregonians, the much larger threat is their high officials writing letters and urging the feds to “swift” action.

    Myth 2: Only nutty, right-wing militias from outside would stoop to such tactics. Brown and Grasty must know the protest included state and local residents. Plenty of community people were sympathetic enough to bring food and supplies. The storeroom overflowed, and locally grown beef had to be kept frozen in a snow bank outside for lack of adequate freezer space.

    If they had visited, they would have found people there ready to talk calmly, rationally and intelligently about the issues. Tragically they felt there had been too much talking already. Now one of the most calm and rational leaders in the group is dead.

    Federal supremacists like to marginalize anyone advocating local control as radical and dangerous. They want you to believe these people are motivated by crazy ideology.

    They don’t talk much about history. These issues have been simmering for decades. The Sagebrush Rebellion made headlines in the 1970s and ’80s. There are smart folks stretching back to the nation’s founding who question the legitimacy of federal control over public lands.

    Given how economically devastating the Bureau of Land Management and Forest Service management has been for rural communities around Oregon, Brown and Grasty should be asking questions, too.

    Myth 3: Anyone opposed to federal control of lands hates conservation. The philosophy of the national conservation groups is irrational. They insist the best way to protect public lands is to put unelected bureaucrats headquartered thousands of miles away in charge. That position is hard to fathom. Many conservationists see the value in “buying local” when it comes to food and services. Local is great, except when it comes to government?

    It is a bit reminiscent of war. The propaganda department dehumanizes the enemy, branding ranchers and loggers as foolish and blinded by greed. And local citizens as if they are too inept to stand up to them and govern responsibly.

    The truth is, there are wise people who care for the environment living right in Harney County. Included among them are cattle ranchers and forestry professionals. Many simply believe management decision-making would be better if it was done much closer to home.

    Myth 4: Ranchers just want a free ride​. It would be far more accurate to say ranchers want fair, not free. Many Western ranches have a federal grazing allotment attached. Most of the time ranchers acquire the permit when they buy a ranch, though they can also buy and sell them independently. The point is, cattlemen pay big money upfront for a right to the grass.

    On top of that, they pay grazing fees annually. Some argue the fees are set way below the market rate to rent private pasture. But they don’t account for ranchers maintaining fences and water systems. These are key differences versus renting private pasture.

    In any event, practically no rancher is complaining about the dollars involved.

    They object to paying federal agencies who have a long history of treating them like tenant farmers and disrespecting legitimate property rights. Most support the idea of paying fees locally, and getting more accountable range management in return.

    Myth 5: The federal government’s prerogative to own and manage the majority of lands in Oregon is beyond question. Now we get to the crux of the matter. Everyone raised in the U.S. is taught federal laws are supreme. What’s more, we learn the U.S. Supreme Court is the ultimate arbiter on whether a law is constitutional. Those arguing for state and local control of lands had their day in court. They lost. Case closed.

    Not so fast. What we were all taught is nonsense. In fact, the States (capital S) are sovereign and supreme. They have the power ­— make that the sacred duty — to nullify unconstitutional laws and defend the liberty of citizens.

    The kicker is that Brown herself already acknowledged this truth in another context. She signed a bill legalizing recreational marijuana last summer, in complete disregard of federal laws. She didn’t send a letter to Washington begging for federal storm troopers to batter the doors in at pot dispensaries. On the contrary, she determined Oregon’s authority trumps federal dictates and acted accordingly.

    What a “radical.” May she and Grasty find that spirit of independence before calling on the FBI to crush the next protest.

    Clint Siegner is a director at Money Metals Exchange, a precious metals dealer in Eagle, Idaho. He grew up in a cattle ranching family in Fields, Ore.

    According to the United States Geological Survey, nearly half the land in the Western United States is owned by the federal government. This includes 84.9 percent of land in Nevada (hiding UFOs requires lots of space), 64.9 percent of Utah, 61.6 percent of Idaho, 61.2 percent of Alaska, 52.9 percent of Oregon, 48.1 percent of Wyoming, and 45.8 percent in California. Meanwhile, the federal government owns only about 5 percent of the land in states east of the Mississippi River. Altogether, Uncle Sam owns roughly 640 million acres of land.

    In March 2012, Utah Gov. Gary Herbert (R) signed the Utah Transfer of Public Lands Act into law, which instructs the federal government to relinquish more than 20 million acres of land to the State of Utah. Although Utah has yet to bring forward a suit in an attempt to enforce the law, a move that is expected to bring strong opposition from the federal government, similar legislation is being considered in nine other Western states. These states are arguing if the federal government turns over its property in the West to the states, it will result in better environmental stewardship of the land, lower management costs, and an increase in productivity.

    Environmentalists, support federal government land ownership in Western states because they say these lands contain the most biologically and environmentally valuable ecosystems in the nation that need to be protected by federal officials from less environmentally concerned states.  “If not for federal policies for public land management,” University of Wyoming professor Debra Donahue told the New York Times, “America would lack a world-class system of national parks, wildlife refuges and wilderness areas.” This is undeniably true; however national parks, national monuments, wildlife refuges, and federal wilderness areas (FWAs), essentially the only parts of the West tourists ever lay their eyes on, would be excluded from any future land transfers.

    Most of the land held by the U.S. Bureau of Land Management, excluding national parks, monuments, and FWAs, is the result of historical accident, not environmental concerns. During the Progressive and New Deal Eras, Congress created federal agencies to control Western lands under the belief central authorities would dispassionately apply science to determine the best use of natural resources. But as Montana State University professor of economics Holly Fretwell writes, “Science cannot determine whether hiking, biking or timber harvest is a higher-valued use. Instead, management decisions—regarding recreation use, commodity production or restoration activities—depend on budget appropriations and special interest battles.”

    Fretwell says this leads to gross mismanagement of public lands, leaving Western communities at risk of wildfires, soil erosion, and other environmental problems that impose steep economic costs.

    Without allowing market forces to have a greater say in how federal lands are used, Western states will continue to suffer economic and environmental disadvantages. A recent study from the Institute for Energy Research showed, even in a time of stagnant demand, opening up federal lands to just oil, coal, and gas production would bring many benefits to the states, including $663 billion in increased GDP and 2.7 million jobs created over the next 30 years. The report also found a $3.9 trillion increase over federal tax revenues, and a $1.9 trillion increase in state tax revenues, over the next 37 years. (In addition to coal, oil, and natural gas, federal lands are also a major source of softwood timber, hard metals, and grazing areas.)

    study comparing state trust lands in Arizona, Idaho, Montana, and New Mexico to federal multiple-use lands from 2009–13 by the Property and Environment Research Center (PERC) found these states earned a combined $14.51 for every dollar spent managing state trust lands, while the federal government earned only 73 cents for every dollar they spent managing federal lands. On a per-acre basis, the states earned $34.60 while the feds lost $4.38.

    PERC writes, “State trust management has demonstrated its ability to resist excessive political influence, respond to market signals, and accommodate new resources over time.… Managing these lands should provide a rich source of revenues to benefit the public, but is instead coming at a high cost to taxpayers.”

    Not only would a transfer of Western federal lands to the states be better for the preservation of much of the land and the residents of the states, it would also be a better deal for taxpayers nationwide

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      Cindy Wisner

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      It’s not that difficult to figure this out, and that the feds are completely unlawful and will murder you or incarcerate you if you get in their way

      This video is about Public land belongs to the people of that State

     

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