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Judge Says Facebook Evidence Will Be Allowed In Malheur Refuge Occupation Trial . News | OPB

Judge: Facebook Evidence Will Be Allowed In Refuge Trial


A federal judge has ruled that evidence federal law enforcement gathered from Facebook will be allowed into the September trial for those accused of conspiring to occupy the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

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An Occupation In Eastern Oregon

Ongoing coverage of the federal case against the people involved in the 41-day armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge and how life has changed in Harney County, Oregon.

In oral arguments this week, defense lawyers argued evidence the FBI gathered from Facebook should be suppressed in the upcoming trial. Defendants argued that the judge who granted the search warrant didn’t have jurisdiction and that the search was overly broad.But U.S. District Court Judge Anna Brown, the trial judge in the case, disagreed. In a ruling late Wednesday, Brown wrote “the Court concludes the Warrant was not overbroad, was supported by probable cause, and was executed properly by the government.”

So far, nine defendants named in the superseding inducement have pleaded guilty to conspiring to prevent federal employees from doing their jobs at the refuge near Burns, Oregon.

The trial is scheduled to start Sept. 7.

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I’ve been told by several sources that the criminal case the feds are pursuing in Oregon is breaking down. The longer they take to get it to trial, the more likely their case will collapse.

From this article:
“I am normally not one to make predictions, but if I had to make one about the criminal conspiracy surrounding the murder of LaVoy Finicum, I would have to predict that the institutional corruption within Oregon is soon to be openly exposed. This is no small matter, since the corruption appears to reach all the way to the highest levels of government.”

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“To watch a man brave adversity is to know someone worthy of respect and admiration.”  -Seneca (Roman philosopher)

 

Dateline: July 18, Portland Oregon

 

The little court room was packed at the Portland, Oregon Federal Court house to hear the attorneys for Ammon and Ryan Bundy argue their respective motions on why they should be released from pretrial custody. It was the last item on the court’s calendar today which had to do with the occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in January of 2016. The Bundys have been locked up without a trial for almost six months now. This was the hearing I had come to see.

Arguing on behalf of Ammon Bundy was his Utah based attorney named Marcus Mumford. Ryan Bundy was representing himself as he has done before.

I did not get to hear all of the defendant’s arguments on why they should be released from custody because I was booted out of the courtroom at the very first sleight of hand I observed from the government. I remarked that the prosecuting attorney had just contradicted himself. It wasn’t a very loud comment I made, but it was loud enough to draw the ire of the federal marshal who ordered me to leave the courtroom immediately.

What got my dander was the fact that the government attorney had clearly contradicted himself. He  just finished admitting that the Bundys posed no flight risk. Then he went on to argue that because of the special circumstances of this case, neither of them should not be presumed to be innocent until proven guilty (as the law requires) because there were guns involved in the crime that is alleged to have been committed… The prosecutor neglected to mention the fact that Ammon Bundy never possessed a firearm during the entire period of time in which the alleged crime is supposed to have been committed.

Judge Robert Jones   was hearing the pretrial motions this morning. He was appointed to the Federal bench by George H.W. Bush. The other judge who is going to preside over the actual trials is Anna Brown. She was appointed by President Bill Clinton.   This morning Judge Jones stopped the government attorney in his tracks. He said, “Let’s cut to the chase here. This is not about the presumption of innocence. It is about whether or not Ammon and Ryan Bundy represent an actual flight risk or a threat to the community.” He noted that the Bundys have many friends and family. They are well respected in their church and in their communities. They are both businessmen. Mr. Ammon Bundy owns an orchard. At that point the prosecutor switched gears and did a complete 180 degree about face. He tried to assert the argument that Mr. Bundy actually did represent a flight risk which he had just previously denied. I couldn’t believe my ears and I  couldn’t keep from pointing this out. “He just contradicted himself”, I said.

A split second later the marshal ordered me out of the courtroom…  Having no desire to be warehoused in the same government facility that Ammon and Ryan Bundy are spending their time in I just left as I was instructed to do, but it is worth noting that it felt good to speak the truth in a place where the truth is seldom heard anymore… in an American court of law.

The attorneys for and against the motion argued on for about another hour and at the end of the day nothing was decided. The judge said he would rule on the motion later… There were at least two television crews within a few blocks of the Federal courthouse and they both knew about these hearings yet neither covered the story. It probably didn’t fit in with their left wing agenda.

There is no reason to deprive Ammon and Ryan Bundy, Pete Santilli and Joseph O’Shaughnessy of their Constitutional rights. One of these is the presumption of innocence until proven guilty. There hasn’t been a trial and there is no finding of guilt…  only unsubstantiated charges and a grand jury indictment. These men are not domestic terrorists. They are  political prisoners held in jail without a trial because of their belief in the Constitution.

Please pray for justice to be served  in their cases and pray for the Bundy Family. Pray for America too.  In spite of the  annual State of the Union messages which always contain lofty political rhetoric our country and our society are coming apart at the seems. Honor and Integrity are becoming vanishing virtues in America. There is no reason to continue to keep the Bundy’s and the other political prisoners in pretrial custody.. They can be counted on to keep their word and their court appearances… Honor is something the 0Bundys were raised on and something they live by, not like the government attorneys wo are prosecuting them.

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Oregon refuge takeover is over, but aftershocks remainOriginally published June 26, 2016 at 10:54 am | Updated June 26, 2016 at 8:25 pm
In this June 21, 2016 photo, signs in Burns, Ore., urge voters to keep Harney County Judge Steve Grasty. (AP Photo/Andrew Selsky)In this June 28, 2016 photo, Harney County Judge Steve Grasty, who faces a special recall election on June 28, speaks during an interview in his office in Burns, Ore. (AP Photo/Andrew Selsky)This photo taken June 21, 2016, shows a locked gate that blocks the road at the headquarters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge near Burns, Ore., more than four months after the last occupier left, officials say it could reopen in late summer or early fall. (AP Photo/Andrew Selsky)In this June 21, 2016 photo, Linda Gainer, co-owner of The Narrows, a cafe, saloon, shop and gas station near the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge near Burns, Ore., attends to a customer. (AP Photo/Andrew Selsky)In this June 21, 2016, photo, a memorial to LaVoy Finicum marks the spot where Finicum, one of the armed occupiers of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, was killed in January by police at a roadblock near Burns, Ore. (AP Photo/Andrew Selsky)

In this June 16, 2016 photo, William C. Fisher, who is camping near a memorial near Burns, Ore., to a slain occupier of a federal wildlife refuge, holds a ceremonial spear. (AP Photo/Andrew Selsky)

In a June 21, 2016, photo, John Hildinger, of Corpus Christi, Texas, tends to a memorial for LaVoy Finicum at the spot where Finicum, one of the armed occupiers of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, was killed by police at a roadblock near Burns, Ore. (AP Photo/Andrew Selsky)
In this June 21, 2016 photo, a sign for Camp Freedom built in the Malheur National Forest marks the spot across a highway from where LaVoy Finicum was killed near Burns, Ore. (AP Photo/Andrew Selsky)

In this June 21, 2016 photo, signs in Burns, Ore., urge voters to keep Harney County Judge Steve Grasty. (AP Photo/Andrew Selsky)

In this June 21, 2016 photo, signs urge voters to keep Harney County Judge Steve Grasty in Burns, Ore. (AP Photo/Andrew Selsky)
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BURNS, Oregon (AP) — Winter and spring have passed since an armed occupation of a federal wildlife refuge ended, but its aftershocks are still shaking this high desert region of Oregon, with activists setting up “Camp Freedom” where an occupier was killed and organizing a recall election this week against a top county official.

The headquarters of the 188,000-acre Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, which was occupied for 41 days, is still closed. Down the road, at The Narrows cafe, saloon, shop and gas station, things have settled. Co-owner Linda Gainer said the business she got from journalists, agents, occupiers, protesters against the occupation, and from protesters protesting the protesters, more than made up for any slower days now. The last militants surrendered Feb. 11.

“I met some awesome people. And you know, everybody that came through, they were all polite,” she said, describing how even militia members and anti-occupation protesters exchanged greetings.
At her place, 26 miles south of Burns, Gainer feels isolated from the divisions that broke open during the takeover and still linger. Burns is the main town in Harney County, which at more than 10,000 square miles is the largest in Oregon. With only 7,100 residents, it is also one of the least populated.
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Those divisions are evident in the signs about Tuesday’s special recall election against County Judge Steve Grasty, who for the past 18 years has been the county’s top administrative official. Grasty blocked occupation leader Ammon Bundy from holding a public meeting in a county building, an act cited as justification for the recall effort. Grasty says it was absurd for Bundy, who said he wanted to turn the federal refuge over to local residents, to ask to use county property.

“He had already taken over, with firearms, a whole compound of buildings. And (the request) didn’t make sense to me, nor did it fit public policy about public safety,” Grasty, his shirt adorned with a “No Recall” button, said in an interview in the county courthouse.

Grasty sees this election as a referendum on the county’s handling of the crisis.

“I’ll be disappointed if I’m recalled,” Grasty said. “If I’m successful, I think it’s an affirmation that the county government did the right things during the course of the occupation.”

A local business owner said a Harney County resident had tried to rent the building so locals could hear both sides on the takeover. The person, who did not want to be named for fear that doing so could impact their business, said Grasty’s refusal violated rights to free speech and freedom of assembly.

But Grasty said it was Bundy himself who tried to get permission to use the building.

The vast majority of signs in Burns and on ranch fence posts are for Grasty, who, even if the referendum fails, retires in December.
“I certainly hope the recall is defeated hugely,” said Donna Clark, who lives with her husband on 5 acres outside Burns, on ranchland they operated with other families before retiring. She said the recall effort is “sour grapes” for the minority of locals who supported the refuge takeover, which was carried out by outsiders.

More than two dozen occupiers were arrested. Several have pleaded guilty in federal court in Portland to conspiracy in exchange for the dismissal of a charge of firearms possession in a federal facility. Most of the remaining defendants, including Bundy, are scheduled to go to trial Sept. 7.

There was one fatality during the takeover. LaVoy Finicum, an Arizona rancher, was shot by Oregon State Police at a roadblock on a snowy road on a mountain pass, far from the refuge as he and others headed for a meeting in an adjacent county. Aerial FBI video footage shows Finicum exit his pickup with his hands up, and then being shot as he reaches for what authorities said was a weapon.

Today, the snow is gone. Grass carpets the forest floor underneath towering ponderosas. At the spot where Finicum died is a makeshift memorial consisting of a stone slab with his LV cattle brand, American flags, a disc that says “land of the free because of the brave,” flowers and other items. Wooden crosses are affixed to nearby trees.

William C. Fisher said he drove to the site three weeks ago from Boise, Idaho, after he heard that sheriff’s deputies were ticketing people for erecting crosses. He began camping out to protect the site. He said one deputy removed crosses, even though roadside crosses for car-crash victims are permitted.

Key Win for Our Political Prisoners – People For Constitutional Freedom

Key Win for Our Political Prisoners

The defense of Ammon Bundy and seven co-defendants in the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge standoff won a key victory on June 10 when a U.S. District Judge dismissed a key gun charge in the case.

Judge dismisses key gun charge against armed occupiers in Oregon standoff

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Regardless of wether you support the protest at the Oregon Refuge or not, these people are not terrorists. No threats were made and it should be viewed as an act of civil disobedience. The key word being “Civil”. Congress has manipulated the laws making “Terrorism Enhancement” very vague and making it very easy to apply to its own citizens during acts of defiance.
The federal prosecutors in this case have stated that they will seek Terrorism Enhancement if the protesters are found guilty of a crime. This is a tactic used to gain leverage on the defendants and force them into taking a plea deal. Why else would the government have a 97% conviction rate? The system is designed to force plea deals by intimidating the citizens with “cruel and unusual” sentence lengths.
This petition is not only for the protesters in Oregon but also for any other citizens facing terrorism enhancement charges. We want Congress to further define the law so it is not a vague tool used by the DOJ to intimidate the citizenry into taking plea deals when they could be innocent.
More information about Terrorism Enhancement can be found at this link: http://shaneharris.com/magazinestories/terrorism-enhancement-obscure-law-stretches-the-definition-of-terrorism-and-metes-out-severe-punishments

BRuce Doucette

ANNOUNCEMENT FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE June 5, 2016
URGENT AND TIME SENSITIVE

This is a legitimate Call to Action and needs to immediately get into the hands of those incarcerated in Oregon or in other States related to matters of the Hammond Family Conflict, Bunkerville conflict, and Malhuer Refuge protest.

There is plenty of rhetoric about the problems and Challenges we’re facing in regards to unlawful administration of the law by certain officials.

We have all been diligently researching; uncovering, exposing and communicating the egregious behavior and unconscionable actions against those who dared to make a stand against an oppressive segment of our Land Management authorities and the Federal Judicial system which they are using to stifle any form of resistance.

This announcement is directed specifically at the Ranchers and their supporters who are currently incarcerated wrongfully and unlawfully for crimes not committed.
While reporting on various issues and conflicts surrounding the Hammond matter, the Malhuer Refuge Protest and the Bunkerville incident of 2014, I became intent on not only bringing awareness to these matters but also seeking actual resolution and remedy.

After spending several months understanding the issues and grievances, the last three Months have been primarily dedicated to the matter of remedy and how to best help those unlawfully incarcerated.

After many interviews, conferences, countless hours of sifting through former cases in Nebraska, Florida Colorado, Texas and other States and discounting numerous claims of what MIGHT be effective, I have become familiar with a group of legal strategists, some of whom are former Bar attorneys and some who are simply legal scholars with an emphasis on Constitutional law and how it integrates and applies to our current circumstances in Oregon.

I have studied this process and these individuals, vetted the participants, heard testimony from those who have been released previously, played devils advocate, drilled them with questions, read considerable material, and listened to hours upon hours of audio files.

My personal objective here was to locate, test, screen and validate an effective process by which to actually TAKE ACTION against those who are violating law and unlawfully casting the shadow of criminality on those innocent of wrongdoing.

I observed an astonishing assault against Citizens merely trying to come to the aid of a good and decent Family who were guilty of no crime, rather just trying to protect what is rightfully theirs. The Hammond Family was brutalized over the course of many years, initially by those wishing to run them off their land for personal gain, then those who simply wanted to prove a point and send a message to anyone who dared to challenge their authority.

Those who came to their aid were assassinated, imprisoned, abused, denied bail and held like animals in solitary confinement 23 hours a day in violation of laws against cruel and unusual punishment for crimes equivalent to civil disobedience.

I watched in dismay as other protestors across the nation destroyed Police property, destroyed public and private property, assaulted police, rioted in the streets and were tolerated with no arrest or civil citation yet a peaceful protest in a remote area of Oregon where the members of the protest actually made great improvements to a public facility which had been grossly neglected by the managing authority of our peoples property.

I was horrified to watch one member murdered in cold blood after being trapped in an ambush via a Deadmans Roadblock leaving no potential outcome but harm or death.

After careful research, months of vetting, intensive observation and an ongoing appeal for justice, a group of Men and Women of particular esteem and legal prowess has assembled for the particular cause of helping our weary Patriots in Oregon and California. A relative dream team if you will, they are Godly people who have expressed a willingness to dispatch a team to Oregon from several other States while maintaining a remote support team as well.
They have also insured that this would be a Pro Bono effort at no cost to the Patriots or their families. It is important to note that this is an innovative process which follows very specific LEGAL procedures brought forth by members not associated with the Oregon Bar. In other words, NO ATTORNEYS.

As previously mentioned, certain members are former attorneys who relinquished considerable esteemed credentials to be able to help in ways attorneys are not capable of. Additionally, they wish to be able to help for the simple pursuit of justice with no attachment to or trappings of monetary incentive.
There is a viable, lawful process of natural Law which draws its structure from the US Constitution, US Supreme court case law and Natural goodwill.
For those who are legal Family members of incarcerated individuals who wish to be considered for pro bono assistance or those stated as authorized to communicate on behalf of the inmates, please contact Mr. Bruce Doucette at 720 338 0394.

He is standing by for incoming calls but is operating from one phone line so if you miss him, call back or leave a message.
He will be processing all requests and will be able to answer specific questions from those incarcerated and those affiliated with those individuals.

This is a valid and genuine effort to help free the Patriots and a gracious sacrifice by those willing to donate their own time and expense to helping provide justice to those who have been violated.

It is not a magic pill nor a flippant effort to bring attention to themselves. These are highly skilled, well educated, gracious individuals who, like myself have simply seen enough and wish to begin the process of defending our position and heritage.
General questions can be directed to the facebook or email account listed below but specific, subject related questions from incarcerated patriots should go to Bruce via phone call.

It is a blessing to have their support and dedication.

I speak in full support of their efforts.

Bradford S. Steffey
Oregon Wide Open
oregonwideopen@gmail.com
Facebook – OwO

Please forward this announcement to the family members and affiliates of those incarcerated or facing potential incarceration.

  • The following is a message from Joe O’Shaughnessy from inside Inverness Detention Center Portland Oregon. He wrote me and asked that I type it up and post it for all of you. As I read it my heart broke as it also swelled with pride that this man is my brother, maybe not in blood but in every other way there is. I am proud to have been adopted into his family.

    Please enjoy and take to heart this special message from Captain O.

    May 28th 2016

    *To my friends, my family and my fellow Americans,

    Despite the hardship I face every day and several other brave Americans face with me, while being held illegally and unconstitutionally imprisoned for crimes that were never committed, and despite the blatant murder of a True American Hero I still believe in the Greatness of America. These days it is easy to see only doom and gloom for the future of our country “but” I believe in the resilience and strength of the American People.
    Too may people have fought, sacrificed and given their lives to preserve our freedom and liberty…and defend the constitution that legally gives us as Americans these rights lest we forget that “We the People” have always been the most powerful Branch of Government and the future of this country will surely depend on those of us who stand up and defend these freedoms and liberties.
    And instill in the future generations their duty to do the same…
    Let no one tell you that this is not a Christian Nation and a Christian Nation it will remain…or it will surely fall…for without morality no Nation can survive.
    Make no mistake this is without question a battle between good and evil.
    So stay strong and be relentless and always remember that when all is said and done…
    The most significant work you will ever do…Is GOD’S work…!!
    In the end the things of this world will fade away becoming a distant memory but God’s work, work done for the kingdom of Heaven will last for all Eternity…
    One of the greatest scriptures that gives me strength is “Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake for “theirs” is the kingdom of Heaven”
    I focus on the word “theirs” meaning someday it will belong to me and can never be taken away…
    For now my future, the future of freedom and liberty and the future of this great country lies in your hands…there is very little I can do from behind these walls.
    So it is you who I will rely on and hop and pray that you pick up the torch and continue to spread sparks of freedom and truth till I can have my day in court.

    As Always
    God and Country Joe O’Shaughnessy

    “No one is free while others are oppressed for in the end this Nation will not be destroyed by evil men it will be destroyed by those who see the evil and stand by and do nothing…

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    The following is a message from Joe O’Shaughnessy from inside Inverness Detention Center Portland Oregon. He wrote me and asked that I type it up and post it for all of you. As I read it my heart broke as it also swelled with pride that this man is my brother, maybe not in blood but in every other way there is. I am proud to have been adopted into his family.

    Please enjoy and take to heart this special message from Captain O.

    May 28th 2016

    *To my friends, my family and my fellow Americans,

    Despite the hardship I face every day and several other brave Americans face with me, while being held illegally and unconstitutionally imprisoned for crimes that were never committed, and despite the blatant murder of a True American Hero I still believe in the Greatness of America. These days it is easy to see only doom and gloom for the future of our country “but” I believe in the resilience and strength of the American People.
    Too may people have fought, sacrificed and given their lives to preserve our freedom and liberty…and defend the constitution that legally gives us as Americans these rights lest we forget that “We the People” have always been the most powerful Branch of Government and the future of this country will surely depend on those of us who stand up and defend these freedoms and liberties.
    And instill in the future generations their duty to do the same…
    Let no one tell you that this is not a Christian Nation and a Christian Nation it will remain…or it will surely fall…for without morality no Nation can survive.
    Make no mistake this is without question a battle between good and evil.
    So stay strong and be relentless and always remember that when all is said and done…
    The most significant work you will ever do…Is GOD’S work…!!
    In the end the things of this world will fade away becoming a distant memory but God’s work, work done for the kingdom of Heaven will last for all Eternity…
    One of the greatest scriptures that gives me strength is “Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake for “theirs” is the kingdom of Heaven”
    I focus on the word “theirs” meaning someday it will belong to me and can never be taken away…
    For now my future, the future of freedom and liberty and the future of this great country lies in your hands…there is very little I can do from behind these walls.
    So it is you who I will rely on and hop and pray that you pick up the torch and continue to spread sparks of freedom and truth till I can have my day in court.

    As Always
    God and Country Joe O’Shaughnessy

    “No one is free while others are oppressed for in the end this Nation will not be destroyed by evil men it will be destroyed by those who see the evil and stand by and do nothing…

    **Verse is Matthew 5:10

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The FBI team has been accused of firing at Finicum’s truck, failing to report their shots as required, and actually taking steps to cover their tracks by collecting their spent shell casings…”

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Washington Post: Growing Concern About FBI Sniper Actions In Oregon Standoff

The two-month standoff between Oregon militia members and police came to a violent end in January, with the shooting of militia leader Robert “LaVoy” Finicum by Oregon state troopers.
But now the Washington Post reports “new details have emerged” about the controversial conduct of FBI Hostage Rescue Team snipers.The Post article portrays the current state of the investigation as considerably messier than readers casually following the story might have suspected.The FBI team has been accused of firing at Finicum’s truck, failing to report their shots as required, and actually taking steps to cover their tracks by collecting their spent shell casings:Last week, Deschutes County Sheriff Shane Nelson, who is overseeing the investigation, said he had concluded that “FBI HRT operators fired two shots as Mr. Finicum exited the truck, and one shot hit the truck.” Nelson accused the agents of failing to “disclose their shots to our investigators.”The five FBI agents have denied firing assault rifles during the incident. But in a recently released interview, an Oregon State Police officer told investigators that he spotted two copper-colored rifle casings near the spot where the FBI agents were standing. The Hostage Rescue Team has used copper- ­colored casings, former agents said; the Oregon state police use only silver-colored casings. The copper casings were never recovered.Meanwhile, the Portland Oregonian reported Tuesday that FBI surveillance video taken after the shooting shows the agents searching the area with flashlights and huddling. One of them then bends over twice and appears to be picking up something.On Wednesday, a law enforcement official confirmed the video account. If allegations of a coverup are determined to be true, the incident would be hugely embarrassing to the FBI and deal a devastating blow to the FBI team’s reputation.Later in the article, an Oregon state trooper is quoted saying he isn’t sure the FBI operators gave their real names, while an investigator describes them as “pretty mysterious.”The Post cites former Hostage Rescue Team operators saying the behavior in the FBI surveillance video has innocuous explanations, namely that HRT members are trained to search the area of a confrontation for additional threats, such as unexploded ordnance, and they often huddle as seen in the video after a mission.Another video referenced in the story appears to show at least one shot hitting the window of Finicum’s truck while he “stands outside the vehicle with his hands in the air,” and investigators say they believe a second shot was fired, missing the truck entirely. Finicum was then shot dead by the Oregon state police when he appeared to reach for his own gun.“Photographs of the pickup and surveillance video later showed the first bullet had entered the roof at a trajectory that traces back toward the spot where a Hostage Rescue Team operator was positioned,” the Washington Post reports.That’s quite a bit of circumstantial evidence for a scenario that has previously been dismissed as the stuff of conspiracy theories. The WaPo notes that official commentary on the new developments from the FBI and Justice Department is extremely limited, as the investigation remains ongoing. The agents involved in the Oregon encounter are said to remain on the job, but cannot be deployed on missions where they might be required to use their weapons until the investigation is complete.

Another video published this week by the Oregonian was taken on a cell phone by Shawna Cox, a passenger in Finicum’s truck. Forensic specialists said the bullet that penetrated the roof of the truck, as seen in this video, could not be traced back to the troopers who were trying to stop the speeding vehicle:

The Oregonian goes into considerable detail about the methods used by investigators to identify and source each shot fired during the confrontation, to back up the conclusion that the round which penetrated the roof of the truck was most likely fired by the FBI Hostage Rescue Team operators.

As the New York Daily News observed, the Shawna Cox cell phone video also makes it clear that Finicum was in a dangerous frame of mind, including such taunts to the authorities as, “You can go ahead and shoot me. Boys, this is gonna get real. You want my blood on your hands? Get it done. Because we got people to see and places to go.”

The possibility that FBI agents failed to report their shots, and perhaps even took steps to conceal them, is fueling militia claims that Finicum was assassinated by the government.

“We are seeing a massive cover-up,” said Finicum’s widow Jeanette, as quoted by the UK Guardian. “There’s been a lack of integrity and honesty from the very beginning … They can’t be trusted to investigate each other.”

“It was an ambush… They were looking for a particular outcome, and I think that they got it,” she added.

“They’ve been caught lying several times,” said Angie Bundy, whose husband Ryan is imprisoned, awaiting trial on charges from the militia standoff. “We can’t have a fair trial if they’re just going to lie … And this goes way beyond lies. They murdered somebody and they tried to murder more innocent people, my husband being one of them.”

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i don’t have the energy to type all i’ve been through with the jail system today. Lots of things were recorded and will be posted later. The basics were: They would not let Lindsay see Ammon, even though Garcia approved it but the guy from yesterday (B. Lordos) challenged her to deny it …so and after speaking to a supervisor she then came back and said “this isn’t my problem, you wont be seeing him today…”

They had her maiden name on the list which was not what her license had… and refused to let her present an ID with the maiden name, since it wasn’t her drivers license..Im tired and have little faith in the system that is abusing us and even less faith that the people will unite long enough and help restore our Constitution to this once great nation.
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Ammon is okay but tired and missing his family. He reminded me that it’s been 7 months since he was able to fulfill his role as “Dad” and of course struggled to get the words out without his voice cracking. He wants the Hammonds exonerated and he believes we are called to Stand for our neighbors in need. He wants us to lay aside small disputes and unite. He is also hopeful that Trump can help in some areas if he is elected President.. He will never fix it all, be he may help. He wants us to set aside any conversations and facebook posts that derive from division including things like calling out patriots that we believe to be informants… or Feds or Trolls.. He feels this is unfruitful and he welcomes any feds to stay near to us to see we are good and honest people who love this country and want to do what is right and just. He said if you are doing nothing wrong why would you spend time worrying about who is amongst you? Stop attacking each other.
ALSO, He is 100% at peace with his new legal team and said everyone needs to be prepared because this is going to be exactly what this case needed!! Stop disputing and spreading fear for fear is not going to win this case and set our prisoners free! I TRUST HIM! Will YOU?!?!?!

Ammon will call us tomorrow during the memorial day rally and give some helpful training on the Constitution.

Here’s a pic of Garcia returning Lindsay’s license and of the B Lordos who told Garcia to not let linds go back even after she first approved it.
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After visiting Ammon for a second time today, My spirits were not only lifted but my soul was at TOTAL peace. Please trust Ammon with the new team he has chosen since Mike decided to step down from the case.. This is going to be okay.. have hope when I say this new legal team (which is bigger and better then they have even fully disclosed) is going to NAIL this case to the wall. We must unite with anyone fighting the same giant as us.. and lay disputes aside. Ammon is asking us all to STOP entertaining ANY disputes and divisions which bear little to no fruit.. If anyone wants to see the government return to the confines of the Constitution, they are our allies not our enemy.
We can do this guys!!!!! With God all things are possible.
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Jake Ryan arrested…..and do you remember everyone telling David Fry that he should have left when he had a chance and that he wouldn’t have been arrested? David called it. They wanted to divide to conquer. And those still using the argument that he should have left…wow the narrow mindedness.

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David the entire system is corrupt and begings with the current Chief & Thief in our White House. waht is even worse is that you are stuck in Dirt bag Liberal Multnoman county run by low lifes Bama follwers.

 

Can you help me spread something all over Facebook and in all the groups? Ammon wants everyone to know that God is still mindful of each one of them and is there watching over them. He shared with us an experience he had. Upon being transferred to Nevada he was chained to a bench for 24 hours. They didn’t feed him all that day. He was cold and tired and they didn’t put him into his cell until the early hours of the next day. When he did get to a cell it was beyond dirty and they left him chained to the bed all day without checking on him or feeding him. By night time he was SO extremely hungry the pain in his stomach was unbearable. He knelt in his cell and cried as he prayed. That God would please hear him and please show even a small tender mercy. He was there for several more hours. This was the night before court. And he decided to start banging his shackles together to try to get
someone’s attention to help him. For a long time he keep banging his shackles together until finally the guy in the cell next to him asked him what was going on. Ammon told him he was starving. That they hadn’t fed him for 2 days. The guy said he would try to get a guards attention. He got a guards attention and the guard finally came over and Ammon told him that he was starving. That he hadn’t received any food for 2 days. The guard said to him that the kitchen was closed for he night. Ammon kept praying. A little while later in the late night hours a guard came to his door and said your coming with me. The guard took him to his brother’s cell. HE TOOK HIM TO MEL’S CELL. and they were able to be cell mates for that night. Ammon said he was just praying for a small tender mercy but this was a HUGE miracle. They have restricted any contact with his brothers and that night they were able
to hug and to spend a whole night together. They cried together and talked for hours. Mel gave Ammon all of his commissary and any extra food he had he gave to Ammon so that finally after 2 days he could be fed. The next day Ammon had court. When he left he hoped that Mel would still be here on his return but knew that would probably not happen. Court was long. Ammon got back late and again went a whole day without eating. He got back after dinner and was facing another day and night hungry. When he got to his cell Mel was gone and had been transferred but Mel left Ammon his whole dinner that he had placed under some things so it wasn’t in direct view. Ammon cried and wanted everyone to know that even though it was only for a night that he got to share with his brother, he said he knows that was a miracle sent directly from God. He knows that God is hearing all of our prayers. It was
confirmed to him 100 fold during this time.

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I count the time spent by those patriots in jail by the weekends. Every weekend I enjoy my time spent with my family or whatever activity that I am doing. When I come home I realize that there are soooo many being held who could not enjoy what I was feeling. The feeling of guilt begins to flow through me and I remember that I must continue pushing their efforts and pick up the torch they left behind. I’m sorry patriots for my selfish ways and I will continue to spread the message you were trying to convey. I pray each and every night that you can find peace and that God soothes whatever pain you may be feeling. Tonight I pray, Our Father in heaven….

So what exactly happened to David is the following:

David Fry is on a special diet where he is provided two drinks to help with compensate for his calorie intake. After retrieving his meal tray and both drinks and in route back to his cell with this tray, a correctional officer stopped David and told him that he was only allowed one drink. David tried to explain himself, but the guard took his drink (food) and walked away. David shrugged the incident off and continued back to his cell only after “downing” his other drink. The officer obviously felt that he did not arouse David enough so he returned and slammed David’s food tray to the ground while having David pinned up with David’s back against the wall. The officer then proceeded to tower over David and demanded David to return to his cell. David felt threatened about what was next to come and told him no because he was scared to move. The officer then proceeded to throw David into his cell, which David stated, “I’m lucky i was able to stay on my feet as I slid to the back of my cell. We have concrete slabs/blocks in the cell in which if I would have fallen I would have been seriously injured.” The correctional officer later had David placed in solitary confinement because of David’s body language, which was David showing his palms to the guard (as in a threatening posture) but David’s palms were only showing because the tray of food was just slammed out of his hands and his palms were exposed as if he had still been holding onto the tray.

This is the treatment the men in prison are receiving if anyone wanted to know, and why he is in solitary confinement.

 

 

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While you all are calling the jail tomorrow.., demand that our political prisoners get contact visits! They have not been convicted of any crime! Treating them as criminals is wrong! Their babies need a hug from their daddies! This driving hundreds of miles for a short visit on a tv monitor is depriving out husbands, children and wives of our rights! Get to work please

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Get on the phone right now! They’ve moved Mel, Eric, jerry and Dave to pahrump. They said we were making too much noise and the jail got tired of us. Let’s show them how much hell we can raise. I’m tired of them thinking they can break us. You want me silent federal government? Make me! Call US Marshall’s! (702) 388-6355

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Marie TurnerOh really. Then we need to keep calling the place they left.

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Ken GardnerProves you were heard.

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Lesa AntoneWe are doing something right!

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Nikki HartmanWhile you all are calling the jail tomorrow.., demand that our political prisoners get contact visits! They have not been convicted of any crime! Treating them as criminals is wrong! Their babies need a hug from their daddies! This driving hundreds of miles for a short visit on a tv monitor is depriving out husbands, children and wives of our rights! Get to work please

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Lesa AntoneWe will need to do a call to action for several things. Our highly successful “P3 commissary funds” group has hit a speed bump when the person handling funds was banned from depositing funds to the men’s accounts. They cannot do this! People are pm’ing me all the time asking when we will be running again. It is going to take a “call to action” to get this bam lifted so we can keep the money going to the men.
Will be posting on this soon and hoping to get as many people as possible to help us with this. You know we are successful when the jails shut us down in a couple weeks time. It is a speed bump but we won’t be silenced nor will we be stopped.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Oregon Public Broadcasting- OPB in their article referred to me as an “Anti-Federal” speaker.

If the ice cream man begins robbing homes in the neighborhood and I speak out against his behavior…does that make me “anti-ice cream men?”

If I begin to speak out against a methlab…does that make me “anti-chemistry?”

Best I can tell I am 100% pro federal government when it operates lawfully. What I am opposed to is lawless, out of bounds, and unconstitutional federal government.

The journalist seemed like a really nice person. Yet, such loose terms do not inform her audience but serve to divide the people of her community against the principles of Liberty and lawful operation of government.

This article exemplifies the pervasive ideology that any criticism of government is bad and absolutely forbidden. If you criticize the government you are an “anti” person. Good citizens simply Obey.

Another interesting thing about this article is that it is really no article at all. What do you get from this article? KrisAnne Hall came to Prineville to speak on the Constitution.

I bet it was a huge disappointment to the editor of OPB to find out that I teach a simple, logical, constitutional, and legal class on State Sovereignty. It must have been a real let down that, inconsistent with alleged FBI accusations, I am not telling people to go to war, blow up buildings, or murder federal agents. I will let those speeches come from presidential advisors, like Bill Ayers.

P.S. Dear OPB, The federal government doesn’t have “rights.” The federal government only has delegated power. There is a really big difference.

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Utah ranchers vow to stand up to government despite Oregon arrests

As the unofficial leaders of the land-use rights movement are being prosecuted, ranchers remain steadfast in fighting what they say is federal overreach
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Utah ranchers Marilyn Wood, Matthew Wood, Stanton Gleave, and Todd Macfarlane say they are anxious to see some kind of major legislative shift. Photograph: Sam Levin for the Guardian
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On 23 January, a group of Utah ranchers gathered in Cedar City and made a pledge: they signed notices of “withdrawal of consent” to be governed – a statement rejecting the authority of the federal agencies that regulate grazing and charge fees to have livestock use public lands.

The ranchers were following in the footsteps of Arizona rancher LaVoy Finicum, who at the time was a leader of a land-use protest at an Oregon wildlife refuge and who had publicly refused to pay for grazing rights.

Then on 26 January, state troopers in Oregon shot and killed Finicum during an attempted arrest, and two weeks after that, federal authorities detained and charged Cliven Bundy, the Nevada rancher who led an armed standoff at his property in 2014.
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The aggressive prosecution of the unofficial leaders of the land-use rights movement in the west appeared to be the government’s way of sending a clear message that authorities would not tolerate these types of protests.

But in remote desert ranges of Utah, ranchers say they remain committed to finding a way to stand up to what they see as federal overreach and mistreatment – even if the most vocal activists leading the charge are now dead or behind bars.

There are a number of factors that make Utah a key battleground in the brewing fight, with some questioning whether tensions could boil over and erupt in the form of another high-profile standoff and national controversy.

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Some in rural parts of central and southern Utah tell stories of extreme overreach by the government, alleging that the US Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and environmental advocacy groups have used endangered species regulations and conservation initiatives to prevent families from sustaining ranches passed down through generations.

Environmentalists, meanwhile, argue that the federal government, which controls roughly 66% of the land in Utah, plays a vital role in protecting habitats and regulating multiple land uses – and that if ranchers had more discretion to graze, the consequences would be devastating.

Utah ranchers who support the Finicums and the Bundys say they want to avoid the dramatic conflicts that emerged in Oregon and Nevada, which resulted in mass arrests of anti-government activists. But they also say they feel like they are running out of options in the face of grazing restrictions that they claim have been so harmful they’ve considered altogether disavowing their government contracts.

“Utah needs to stand up and take their land back,” said Stanton Gleave, a 66-year-old Kingston rancher and one of the men who signed a “withdrawal of consent” document in January. “I don’t think we was ever supposed to be governed by a federal government. We’re supposed to be a free people … If we was ever free, we’ve lost it somewhere down the line.”
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Gleave and other ranchers who had declared their intent to reject federal grazing agreements decided not to follow through with that threat. But they say they are anxious to see some kind of major legislative shift that would remove the BLM from Utah’s public lands – a long shot even in the conservative Beehive State, where many lawmakers and state officials are sympathetic to the ranchers and deeply critical of the federal government.

It’s not hard to find links between the Utah ranching community and the recent Oregon standoff at the Malheur national wildlife refuge, which lasted 41 days and was inspired by the prosecution and imprisonment of two ranchers in a federal arson case.

Finicum, a key spokesman for the Oregon occupation, had traveled to Utah before and during the standoff to recruit ranchers to renounce the BLM, and at his funeral in his hometown of Kanab supporters from across the west hailed him as a patriot who died fighting for ranchers’ rights.

On a recent evening, Gleave and three other ranchers gathered at a diner in Beaver, a tiny rural town in southern Utah, along Interstate 15, to share their stories of how they’ve fought with the BLM – and their fears that the government wants to eventually push them off their land altogether.
Stanton Gleave: ‘Utah needs to stand up and take their land back.’

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“They’re doing all of this stuff illegally to the Finicums and to the Bundys,” said Matthew Wood, a 62-year-old Cedar City rancher. “When are they coming after us, and what excuse are they going to use to come after us?”
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Todd Macfarlane, a 54-year-old Kanosh rancher who had traveled to the Oregon occupation and briefly acted as a liaison between protest leaders and reporters, said that Utah ranchers were tired of being labeled as extremists for defending their rights to use the land and maintain their ranching businesses.

He said that the ranchers who signed a pledge against the BLM were trying to make a bold statement and gauge reaction.

Many fear the government has placed their livelihood in jeopardy, said Macfarlane, who helped organize the Cedar City event. “They are trying to drive people off of the land. It may take a generation or two. It may take a hundred years, but the bottom line is that they’re trying to reduce your numbers [of livestock].”

Wood and his wife Marilyn, 58, said their ranch has been in the family since the 1850s – long before the government adopted the 1934 Taylor Grazing Act, which established federal regulations. Since the 1960s, they say they’ve been forced to cut their livestock roughly in half based on reductions in their so-called “animal unit months” (AUMs), a unit that determines the number of cattle or sheep ranchers are allowed to graze on federally regulated lands.

Decades ago, the Woods used to graze roughly 600 cows on 80,000 acres of land, but now they are restricted to 300 cattle on the same plot, they said.

“It’s to kick us all off of our land,” said Marilyn, adding that she had to work at a grocery store to supplement their income as they’ve struggled to make ends meet with income from the ranch. “All we want to do is ranch.”

The current federal fee is $2.11 per AUM, and with about 1,300 AUMs, the Woods pay roughly $33,000 a year to graze cattle, Matthew said.

While critics argue that ranchers are getting a good deal to use public lands at those prices, Utah ranchers claim that the federal government should not have the authority in the first place to control their activities – and that government bureaucrats, pressured by environmental activists, are managing them out of business.
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“They like to call it a ‘permit’ to act like they’re giving you something, but you owned this forever, you owned it before them agencies were ever established,” Gleave said.

From 1949 to 2012, grazing on BLM land in Utah declined by 68% and the number of families ranching on federal rangelands dropped by 58%, according to AUM data provided by Randy Parker, chief executive officer of the Utah farm bureau.

“These are people that were ranching and grazing on land held in common in Utah before there was ever a public domain,” Parker said. “These ranching businesses are absolutely critical to the economic, cultural and historical health of these rural cities and towns.”

Utah Republicans have pursued numerous legislative and legal avenues to establish state control of public lands – most recently preparing for a potential lawsuit against the federal government.

State representatives and county commissioners say they want to limit the federal government’s power and find legal ways to mitigate the growing anger of ranchers – so that they don’t escalate in the form of a standoff.

“We strongly adhere to the rule of law,” said state representative Keven Stratton, who has backed efforts to establish state control of federal land. “I have sympathy for the frustration, but there are appropriate ways to deal with that and inappropriate ways.”
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Shelley Smith, deputy state director for the BLM in Utah, said that the agency works with ranchers to address their grievances. “Most of the time we’re in pretty harmonious working relationships with our ranchers.”

Asked about threats by ranchers to ignore contracts, Smith said: “We’re concerned when people feel they haven’t been heard.” But she noted that all 1,478 BLM ranching permits in the state have been paid and also argued that a small fraction of ranchers have formally appealed BLM’s permit decisions over the past 20 years.

Smith added: “We manage these lands on behalf of all Americans for the stewardship of a couple dozen resources. We are always trying to find that Rubik’s Cube puzzle match. Most of the time we do a pretty good job.”

Bill Hedden, executive director of the Grand Canyon Trust, a Utah environmental group, said the complaints of ranchers were wildly exaggerated – and that BLM’s restrictions are critical to the health of the land. “America has decided they are public lands,” he said. “No matter how these guys want to rewrite history … these never were their lands.”

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As federal cases against the antigovernment extremists who occupied the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon moves into the courts, half-cracked common law attorneys are trying to get in on the case.

Two antigovernment extremists, sounding very much like antigovernment “sovereign citizens,” are attempting to intervene in the federal case stemming from the 41-day illegal occupation of an Oregon wildlife preserve.

Ronald Vrooman, who calls himself a “private attorney general,” and James “Jimi” O’Hagan, acting as a “legal intervener,” have both filed paperwork with the U.S. District Court in Portland, seeking to participate in the case brought against Ammon Bundy and 25 others.

But federal Judge Anna Brown is having none of it.

Not only did the federal judge recently refuse to grant the pair legal standing in the case, she ordered the court clerk to return their “legal” paperwork and refuse to accept anything further from anyone advocating “common law courts.”

“When the Court receives any submission for this matter that is not from a named party or any attorney admitted to the Bar of this Court representing a named party, the Court directs the Clerk to return the document to the sender with a copy of this Order or seek further direction from this Court as to any particular nonparty submission,” Brown wrote in her court order.

O’Hagan filed paperwork last month seeking to be an “intervener” in the case and assist Bundy and the other defendants. He said he doesn’t view Bundy and the other current defendants as criminals, rather “whistle-blowers who tried to make a point about government over-reach” when they occupied the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge earlier this year.

“I will be asking her to reconsider,” O’Hagan, a 61-year-old cranberry farmer from Grayland, Wash., told Hatewatch when he was informed of the judge’s action.

O’Hagan also filed legal papers with the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in an attempt to re-open the rejected appeal of two Harney County, Ore., ranchers, Dwight and Steven Hammond, whose convictions and sentences led to the refuge occupation.

Sovereign citizens frequently act as their own lawyers, sometimes filing a flurry of legal motions and briefs, many of which are nonsensical and spurious, that amounts to what is often called “paper terrorism.”

In late February, Vrooman went to a court hearing for Ammon Bundy and his fellow defendants. He stood up in court and told the judge he was a “private attorney general.” The judge told him to return to his seat before entering a court order barring any further meddling.

“The Court has received and reviewed communications from Ronald Vrooman, a member of the public who requested in open court during proceedings on Feb. 24, 2016, to participate in this matter as a ‘private attorney general,’” the judge said.

The federal judge said Vrooman “is neither a named defendant nor is he an attorney admitted to the bar of the Court in an attorney-client relationship with a named Defendant in the case.”

Vrooman couldn’t be reached for comment. Meanwhile, O’Hagan wasn’t at a loss for words in describing in the federal judge’s actions and his unbridled contempt for judges and attorneys.

Filing his own legal paperwork and fighting what he calls “the corruption within the judiciary” is nothing new for O’Hagan. For several years, he has been involved in a war with attorneys, judges and the legal system.

O’Hagan currently has two voter initiative petitions pending with the Washington Secretary of State. One filed in late March calls “for the removal of all state bar members who have infiltrated the legislative and executive branches of our government to make laws to make money from creating arguments between men and women.”

“I guess I consider myself a ‘sovereign,’” he responded when asked if he was a “sovereign citizen.”

“I acknowledge there are federal and state laws that we need to abide by,” O’Hagan said, “but I question whether and how these laws apply when we’re living in a corporate United States.”

O’Hagan said he spent several days at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, meeting with Ammon Bundy and other occupiers, including Robert LaVoy Finicum, who was killed on Jan. 26 at a police roadblock.

O’Hagan currently doesn’t face any criminal charges in connection with the time he spent at the refuge.

“I don’t consider myself an ‘occupier,’” he said. “I didn’t go there with a gun, but with a pen to investigate government over-reach.”

Besides attracting antigovernment extremists and militias, the Malheur occupation also was a magnet for those who believe they can use fictitious common law courts to bring criminal charges against public officials.

Bruce Doucette, a self-proclaimed “U.S. Superior Court judge” from Denver, went to the Oregon refuge in mid-January, pledging to “review evidence that public officials may have committed crimes.” That effort apparently went nowhere, and days later, Ammon Bundy and other occupation leaders were arrested.

If sovereign citizens and self-declared laywers are an issue in Oregon, the State Attorney General’s office didn’t want to talk about it, declining comment through a spokeswoman.

The Oregon State Bar Association has a 16-member Unlicensed Practice of Law Committee that deals with sovereign citizens and other non-lawyers who attempt to be attorneys. David Doughman, chair of committee, told Hatewatch that “paper terrorism” from sovereign citizens is a “real issue” and applauded judge’s order.

“The arguments presented are generally incoherent and are wholly unmoored from any recognized American jurisprudence,” Doughman said. “I give Judge Brown credit for issuing an order to the court’s clerks office directing it to reject such filings. Courts are already heavily burdened with legitimate pleadings from those authorized to file them.”

  •    . Belzberg, Rice v. Janovich and Village at Camelback v. Carr.
  • 3. A pattern of racketeering is expressly defined to mean only two (2) RICO “predicate acts” during any given 10-year period. See 18 U.S.C. 1961(5).

    4. The federal statute at 18 U.S.C. 1961 itemizes all RICO predicate acts. The most common are mail fraud, extortion, obstruction of justice, obstruction of a criminal investigation, and witness tampering or retaliation.

    5. Violations of State and federal laws both qualify as RICO predicate acts. 18 U.S.C. 1961(1)(B) itemizes a long list of federal offenses that qualify as predicate acts.

    6. Any act or threat involving murder, kidnapping, gambling, arson, robbery, bribery, obscene matter, controlled substances or extortion is also a RICO predicate act, if it is chargeable under State law and punishable by imprisonment for more than one year. See 18 U.S.C. 1961(1)(A).

    7. The Supremacy Clause in the U.S. Constitution elevates all RICO statutes to the status of supreme Law, and resolves any conflicts with State laws in favor of the RICO statutes. Whenever conflicts occur, State laws and State constitutional provisions have no standing (“notwithstanding”).

    8. Congress intended the RICO statutes to be liberally construed. See 84 Stat. 947, Sec. 904, Oct. 15, 1970. However, this liberal construction rule was never codified anywhere in Title 18 of the U.S. Code, even though Title 18 has been enacted into positive law by Act of Congress.

    9. A specific Congressional objective is encouraging civil litigation to supplement government efforts to deter and penalize the practices prohibited by the RICO statutes.

    10. Another objective of Civil RICO is to turn victims into prosecutors, “private attorneys general”, dedicated to eliminating racketeering activity. See Rotella v. Wood.

    11. Civil RICO specifically has a further purpose of encouraging potential private plaintiffs to investigate diligently. Rotella v. Wood.

    12. Organized crime is a serious national problem for which public prosecutorial resources are deemed inadequate. See Agency Holding Corp. v. Malley-Duff & Associates.

    13. Civil RICO authorizes triple damages (3x) to be awarded to successful private plaintiffs. See 18 U.S.C. 1964(c).

    14. The provision for triple damages is justified by the expected benefit of suppressing racketeering activity, an object pursued the sooner the better. Rotella v. Wood.

    15. The “private attorney general” concept holds that a successful private party plaintiff is also entitled to recovery of his legal expenses, including attorney fees, if he has advanced the policy inherent in public interest legislation on behalf of a significant class of persons. Dasher v. Housing Authority of City of Atlanta.

    16. A private attorney general may appear in court without the license to practice law that is required of all State Bar members.

    17. A private attorney general may appear in court “ex rel.” on behalf of the “United States” (i.e. the federal government), the State of Washington, the People of Washington or the People of the United States of America. Confer at “Ex relatione” in Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition.

    18. Civil RICO statutes are supplemented by 2 Human Rights Treaties –- the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights –- both of which are rendered supreme Law by virtue of the Supremacy Clause (just like the Bill of Rights).

    19. The latter Covenant’s Reservations enacted by Congress expressly reserve original jurisdiction to State and local governments, to the end that their competent authorities may take appropriate measures for the fulfillment of the Covenant.

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    there be fringed flags on the horizon – AHOY! AHOY!

    although i do have to wonder what exactly he means by “make laws to make money from creating arguments between men and women.”

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    I wonder if Judge Brown has a hard time keeping a straight face when confronted with these loony tunes, especially in open court. I know I would.

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    Several of the sorta-pro members of the OLive commentariat have offered up various suggestions for adult beverages that Judge Anna Brown might consider to relax after a contentious day listening to certain defense attorneys and/or their clients. We realize that offering up such beverages might be considered to be contempt or an effort to sway the judges efforts in a particular direction and we would not want to do that. However, after the shenanigans are finished (probably a year from now) if said judge were to show up at a McMenamins tavern we could all agree upon, she would not need to spend any money, and she could bring along her clerks for good measure because they are also subject to the same abuse and don’t get to stick their thumb in the idiot’s eye.

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    Vrooman … vroom vroom … and O’Hagan … O’H O’H … totally make me feel better than competent as a lawyer; and, I’m just a flippin’ eyeball. Sad.

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    While I agree that these whack-a-doodles can be amusing, do not underestimate them. They can be dangerous!!! A few years ago, two West Memphis police officers were murdered by two sovereigns after a traffic stop.

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    Authorities pursuant to Civil R.I.C.O. 18USC1961-1968

    1. The Civil RICO statute at 18 U.S.C. 1964 expressly authorizes civil remedies, in addition to any criminal remedies that also exist to prosecute organized crime.

    2. State courts have original jurisdiction to enforce the Civil RICO statute at 18 U.S.C. 1964. SeeTafflin v. Levitt and Lou v. Belzberg, Rice v. Janovich and Village at Camelback v. Carr.

    3. A pattern of racketeering is expressly defined to mean only two (2) RICO “predicate acts” during any given 10-year period. See 18 U.S.C. 1961(5).

    4. The federal statute at 18 U.S.C. 1961 itemizes all RICO predicate acts. The most common are mail fraud, extortion, obstruction of justice, obstruction of a criminal investigation, and witness tampering or retaliation.

    5. Violations of State and federal laws both qualify as RICO predicate acts. 18 U.S.C. 1961(1)(B) itemizes a long list of federal offenses that qualify as predicate acts.

    6. Any act or threat involving murder, kidnapping, gambling, arson, robbery, bribery, obscene matter, controlled substances or extortion is also a RICO predicate act, if it is chargeable under State law and punishable by imprisonment for more than one year. See 18 U.S.C. 1961(1)(A).

    7. The Supremacy Clause in the U.S. Constitution elevates all RICO statutes to the status of supreme Law, and resolves any conflicts with State laws in favor of the RICO statutes. Whenever conflicts occur, State laws and State constitutional provisions have no standing (“notwithstanding”).

    8. Congress intended the RICO statutes to be liberally construed. See 84 Stat. 947, Sec. 904, Oct. 15, 1970. However, this liberal construction rule was never codified anywhere in Title 18 of the U.S. Code, even though Title 18 has been enacted into positive law by Act of Congress.

    9. A specific Congressional objective is encouraging civil litigation to supplement government efforts to deter and penalize the practices prohibited by the RICO statutes.

    10. Another objective of Civil RICO is to turn victims into prosecutors, “private attorneys general”, dedicated to eliminating racketeering activity. See Rotella v. Wood.

    11. Civil RICO specifically has a further purpose of encouraging potential private plaintiffs to investigate diligently. Rotella v. Wood.

    12. Organized crime is a serious national problem for which public prosecutorial resources are deemed inadequate. See Agency Holding Corp. v. Malley-Duff & Associates.

    13. Civil RICO authorizes triple damages (3x) to be awarded to successful private plaintiffs. See 18 U.S.C. 1964(c).

    14. The provision for triple damages is justified by the expected benefit of suppressing racketeering activity, an object pursued the sooner the better. Rotella v. Wood.

    15. The “private attorney general” concept holds that a successful private party plaintiff is also entitled to recovery of his legal expenses, including attorney fees, if he has advanced the policy inherent in public interest legislation on behalf of a significant class of persons. Dasher v. Housing Authority of City of Atlanta.

    16. A private attorney general may appear in court without the license to practice law that is required of all State Bar members.

    17. A private attorney general may appear in court “ex rel.” on behalf of the “United States” (i.e. the federal government), the State of Washington, the People of Washington or the People of the United States of America. Confer at “Ex relatione” in Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition.

    18. Civil RICO statutes are supplemented by 2 Human Rights Treaties –- the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights –- both of which are rendered supreme Law by virtue of the Supremacy Clause (just like the Bill of Rights).

    19. The latter Covenant’s Reservations enacted by Congress expressly reserve original jurisdiction to State and local governments, to the end that their competent authorities may take appropriate measures for the fulfillment of the Covenant.

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      From the Wiki article on private attorney general:

      While there is such a thing as a private attorney general act, it should be stated that there is no such thing as a private non-attorney citizen being a “private attorney general” for all purposes. The term applies only to the exercise of one’s ability to pursue certain specific kinds of legal actions which are statutorily authorized. It does not create the ability to call one’s self a “private attorney general”.

      So, in reality-based reality, you cannot self-declare that you are a “private attorney general.”

      Perhaps, in the future, you can add that as #20 on your list.

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      Dirt Dan,,,your medication. Take it….Stupid

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    If common law courts are fictitious, per se. Why does the U. S Court’s own website emphasize that they are a Common Law Court?

    The only contempt here seems to be coming from so called professionals when confronted with their own procedures and customs.

    Most of the nonsensical natured statements are coming from reporters who allege to be literate, and yet are asking question about “sovereign citizens”

    You ought to familiarize yourself with the ICCPR and article 1. And 6. on self determination, and recognition as a person.

    Anyone who proclaims to be anything is self recognized, and has determined themselves to be so. No one can force someone to take recognition as a class, through means of coercion. That would be extortion.

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    I CURRENTLY HAVE A CIVIL RICO EMERGENCY PETITION 18USC1961-1968 BEING OBSTRUCTED BY THE STATE SUPREME COURT CLERK FROM FILING NOW OBSTRUCTED FROM BEING HEARD FOR OVER 17 YRS IN THE WASHINGTON COURTS….WASHINGTON STATE PEOPLES COALITION for JUSTICE ON FB

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    18USC1961-1968 PURSUANT TO 1964 AND LUIS VS USA US SUP CT. TWO WEEKS AGO JEEZ

Lisa Sundloff Bundy

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70 days in jail today! I saw him for the first time this past weekend in over a month….it was a bitter sweet, but mostly sweet, experience. To walk into that room and see behind the glass, his beautiful blue eyes and long eyelashes. He was a beautiful site to see and I realized that I missed him even heart-wrenchingly more than I thought I did. We put our hands up against the glass and our energy connected and the spirit burned between the 2 of us. We are still amazingly, strongly connected. We cried together! We cried A LOT! No amount of mans evil can keep us disconnected. I am grateful for a loving Heavenly Father that has helped us to stay connected. Our spirits re-united and it was a beautiful experience… Yes! We are soul mates and far more than any earthly bond will forever connect us! We are eternal companions and are in this marital bond for more than just the two of us knew in the beginning. We have a mission together…we are partners! We will triumph in our trials together and move forward gaining these character building experiences….TOGETHER. We will never be able to cut our tie…NEVER. What an amazing feeling that is…..so in this trialsome moment of life….we will forge forward in strength as our Heavenly Father leads us. We desire to only do his will. We will not be broken! I love my soul mate, my companion….my eternal companion. Thank you Ammon Bundy, for your obedience, loyalty and strength. You are a wonderful example to the world!

e meeting it was told to us that further discussion centered around the arrest of other people associated with the Bundy Family. Are all people who visited Ammon and other Whistle Blowers at the refuge in danger of arrest? When the property is public property why would any peaceful visit be subject to arrest. Are we going to see Fish and Wildlife employees and other government employees who went out to the refuge arrested too? Are we going to see the Sheriffs arresting their own for participating in the takeover by giving safe passage? Are we going to see the Sheriffs or FBI arrested for meeting with the Bundy’s? Seems like Harney County needs a bigger jail because the sky is the limit if so!

DAVE WARD LOSES HIS OFFICE TO THE FEDS BUT IT IS OKAY HIS TWO HANDLERS CAN HELP HIM MOVE HIS THINGS
It has also come to our attention that Appointed Dave Ward and his two handlers have been kicked out of his office so the FBI can use it. This seems awful intrusive, but get used to it Ward as this is just the beginning for a hind tit sucking calf, he never knows what will land on his head! (you best be careful Ward wining about the spot lights shining into your house at night, you never know what may swat you in the morning)
Sheriff Deputies has been posting about killing cows on open range, is that policy now in Harney County? What is in the drinking water in Harney County? This has become so crazy that we can’t be certain if any of these people making these comments haven’t been victim to body snatchers! This behavior is out of this world insane. Good people do not act like this! Where is PETA? Where are the eco terrorists? Do we only see these bureaus when money is passing hands or hourly pay is given for protesting?
We know harassment and stalking still continuing in Harney, but the lead militia members have been arrested, so who will we see the FBI dressing up as now? David Ward? Will Ward now be blamed for all the trespass, damage and harassment the FBI is currently doing? Goodness this has turned into a 3 ring circus and Steve Grasty is bozo the clown in the main tent, aka: the Paiutes old casino circus tent. Old Camp Casino is now more interesting than ever.

The Casino has been at the center of many discussions and they include hush money. Was hush money paid to the Paiutes to lies about the artifacts?
911 is suppose to be the number you call for emergency protection, but what do you call when the one who is suppose to protect you is the one wanting to hurt you? The facts show that the arrests and abuse are am all out assault on the American Patriots, the Constitution and the farm lands of America.
TR/Thom & Rene’
UPDATE: TODAY THE COWBOY ATTENDED A MEETING IN JORDAN VALLEY AT THE HIGHSCHOOL. Congressman Greg Walden was in attendance and it was on the Malheur Canyonland monument project that the BLM and President Obama are attempting to build. It is being pushed by a shoe manufacturer and ONDA, enviornmental groups among others. Thom stood up and let Walden know about this story regarding Wards statements at a closed meeting about rounding up Harney County citizens.
Another member of the community handed Walden hundreds of pages of confidential emails between the BLM, interior Department and Fish and Game, on the Hammond Case. The Sheriffs in attendance included Sheriff Brian Wolfe, Deputy Sherriff Wroten, Scott Franklin who works for Harney School District and Franklins wife who is the treasurer of Harney County. Needless to say when Thom let Walden know about the round up faces dropped and shock entered the room, as that was private information the Sheriffs did not want anyone outside to know. Cliff Bentz stood up two questions before Thom mentioning the round up and was heard demonizing the Bundy’s.
The demonization demonizing those who bring the light to the public and bring these issues up is wrong in our view. We have representatives that were at that meeting deomonizing the Bundy’s instead of supporting the people who are bringing the tyranny to light. Why is the Federal Government militarizing against the people of the county? Why is this being allowed?
Thom asked Walden if he supported the Constitution or just gave lip service like Wyden and Merkley did calling it a virus? Walden answered, “ I support it 100%”. Thom said to Walden and other public servants in attendance, “The Bundys and the people who have supported them are not anti government, they are anti corruption in government, the whole idea of anti government is wrong and spun by the media. We are for a government that abides by the law of the land, the Constititon and supports the people. Where is the support for the people Walden?”. Walden stopped, reflected and said, “i support the people”. Thom said that last answer of Waldens took the longest and was the one most seriously responded to. Walden responded with eye to eye contact and Thom said he felt heard.
As Thom was leaving the meeting he was approached by Sheriff Deputy Wroten and asked for his phone number and name, Thom abliged saying he had, “nothing to hide” and asked if he was going to arrest him for just stating facts. Wroten said, “No, no, people are just going to ask your name and who you and Duane are.”
So, as this story was released today about the round up of people in Harney we know that the Harney County public servants are not ready to play nice, or be transparent. Closed meetings discussing the round up of people for calling 911 or for using their first amendment rights is wrong all ways from Sunday.
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Jerome BaduraFor those that read this that are LDS/Mormon’s take the time and read D&C 121, 122, and 123… which gives us a conversation between the Prophet Joseph Smith Jr. and the Savior. It will give one insight of what Ammon knows and understands as he goes tSee More

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Steve AdamsDang I got halfway through this article and I can’t read the rest, it just froze one the article and now won’t go back to it.

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Stephen Hulsthese 2 talks have been on my mind, one I heard on radio this morning taking daughter to work. both fit this and those dealing with the radical agenda’s of Non Justice minded rulers. https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/hugh-b-brown_god-gardener/ The one I heard today https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/neal-a-maxwell_patience/

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Coco KocinskiWe all saw the video, there is no mistake, the FBI murdered LaVoy, we must make sure they are held accountable! Time we demand it! They must be tried and punished if convicted.

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Rebecca McnuttThis is a spiritual battle. I have called on God more than once to deal with people and they reaped what they sowed. It was not pretty. We are more than conquerors when we unleash our faith. Don’t let demons push you around or scare you. RecognizeSee More

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Stephen HadeenCome on ahead you ass hats!!! Ill drop one or two at least if you try.

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Rene PowersUPDATE: TODAY THE COWBOY ATTENDED A MEETING IN JORDAN VALLEY AT THE HIGHSCHOOL. Congressman Greg Walden was in attendance and it was on the Malheur Canyonland monument project that the BLM and President Obama are attempting to build. It is being pushedSee More

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Teresa BrookshireThe walls are crumbling down. So proud of you Thom, God protect you and now that Walden has publicly made his stand may he be protected also. There are many with a lot to lose with the truth being exposed.

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Dianne WrightAny links to these people killing cattle and bragging about it we can share?

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UPDATE: TODAY THE COWBOY ATTENDED A MEETING IN JORDAN VALLEY AT THE HIGHSCHOOL. Congressman Greg Walden was in attendance and it was on the Malheur Canyonland monument project that the BLM and President Obama are attempting to build. It is being pushed by a shoe manufacturer and ONDA, enviornmental groups among others. Thom stood up and let Walden know about this story regarding Wards statements at a closed meeting about rounding up Harney County citizens.
Another member of the community handed Walden hundreds of pages of confidential emails between the BLM, interior Department and Fish and Game, on the Hammond Case. The Sheriffs in attendance included Sheriff Brian Wolfe, Deputy Sherriff Wroten, Scott Franklin who works for Harney School District and Franklins wife who is the treasurer of Harney County. Needless to say when Thom let Walden know about the round up faces dropped and shock entered the room, as that was private information the Sheriffs did not want anyone outside to know. Cliff Bentz stood up two questions before Thom mentioning the round up and was heard demonizing the Bundy’s.
The demonization demonizing those who bring the light to the public and bring these issues up is wrong in our view. We have representatives that were at that meeting deomonizing the Bundy’s instead of supporting the people who are bringing the tyranny to light. Why is the Federal Government militarizing against the people of the county? Why is this being allowed?
Thom asked Walden if he supported the Constitution or just gave lip service like Wyden and Merkley did calling it a virus? Walden answered, “ I support it 100%”. Thom said to Walden and other public servants in attendance, “The Bundys and the people who have supported them are not anti government, they are anticorruption in government, the whole idea of anti government is wrong and spun by the media. We are for a government that abides by the law of the land, the Constititon and supports the people. Where is the support for the people Walden?”. Walden stopped, reflected and said, “i support the people”. Thom said that last answer of Waldens took the longest and was the one most seriously responded to. Walden responded with eye to eye contact and Thom said he felt heard.
As Thom was leaving the meeting he was approached by Sheriff Deputy Wroten and asked for his phone number and name, Thom abliged saying he had, “nothing to hide” and asked if he was going to arrest him for just stating facts. Wroten said, “No, no, people are just going to ask your name and who you and Duane are.”
So, as this story was released today about the round up of people in Harney we know that the Harney County public servants are not ready to play nice, or be transparent. Closed meetings discussing the round up of people for calling 911 or for using their first amendment rights is wrong all ways from Sunday. https://www.facebook.com/notes/the-cowboy-and-the-lady/sheriffs-discuss-arresting-all-who-called-911-around-the-time-lavoy-finicum-assa/1031923303544055
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FS DISCUSS ARRESTING ALL WHO CALLED 911 AROUND THE TIME LAVOY FINICUM ASSASSINATED.
By: Thom Davis & Rene’ Powers, The Cowboy And The Lady
We do not know who called the meeting, was it Steve Grasty again? The meeting this story is about was said to have happened between Harney County Sheriffs and other County Sheriffs from within Oregon. In the meeting we are told they were to have discussed arresting anyone that called 911 around the time Lavoy Finicum was assassinated. The 911 system was overloaded, so it appears the Sheriffs are going to use that as reason to incarcerate more people. Since when does calling 911 mean a jail sentence for those in fear?
At the meeting it was told to us that further discussion centered around the arrest of other people associated with the Bundy Family. Are all people who visited Ammon and other Whistle Blowers at the refuge in danger of arrest? When the property is public property why would any peaceful visit be subject to arrest. Are we going to see Fish and Wildlife employees and other government employees who went out to the refuge arrested too? Are we going to see the Sheriffs arresting their own for participating in the takeover by giving safe passage? Are we going to see the Sheriffs or FBI arrested for meeting with the Bundy’s? Seems like Harney County needs a bigger jail because the sky is the limit if so!

DAVE WARD LOSES HIS OFFICE TO THE FEDS BUT IT IS OKAY HIS TWO HANDLERS CAN HELP HIM MOVE HIS THINGS
It has also come to our attention that Appointed Dave Ward and his two handlers have been kicked out of his office so the FBI can use it. This seems awful intrusive, but get used to it Ward as this is just the beginning for a hind tit sucking calf, he never knows what will land on his head! (you best be careful Ward wining about the spot lights shining into your house at night, you never know what may swat you in the morning)
Sheriff Deputies has been posting about killing cows on open range, is that policy now in Harney County? What is in the drinking water in Harney County? This has become so crazy that we can’t be certain if any of these people making these comments haven’t been victim to body snatchers! This behavior is out of this world insane. Good people do not act like this! Where is PETA? Where are the eco terrorists? Do we only see these bureaus when money is passing hands or hourly pay is given for protesting?
We know harassment and stalking still continuing in Harney, but the lead militia members have been arrested, so who will we see the FBI dressing up as now? David Ward? Will Ward now be blamed for all the trespass, damage and harassment the FBI is currently doing? Goodness this has turned into a 3 ring circus and Steve Grasty is bozo the clown in the main tent, aka: the Paiutes old casino circus tent. Old Camp Casino is now more interesting than ever.

The Casino has been at the center of many discussions and they include hush money. Was hush money paid to the Paiutes to lies about the artifacts?
911 is suppose to be the number you call for emergency protection, but what do you call when the one who is suppose to protect you is the one wanting to hurt you? The facts show that the arrests and abuse are am all out assault on the American Patriots, the Constitution and the farm lands of America.
TR/Thom & Rene’
UPDATE: TODAY THE COWBOY ATTENDED A MEETING IN JORDAN VALLEY AT THE HIGHSCHOOL. Congressman Greg Walden was in attendance and it was on the Malheur Canyonland monument project that the BLM and President Obama are attempting to build. It is being pushed by a shoe manufacturer and ONDA, enviornmental groups among others. Thom stood up and let Walden know about this story regarding Wards statements at a closed meeting about rounding up Harney County citizens.
Another member of the community handed Walden hundreds of pages of confidential emails between the BLM, interior Department and Fish and Game, on the Hammond Case. The Sheriffs in attendance included Sheriff Brian Wolfe, Deputy Sherriff Wroten, Scott Franklin who works for Harney School District and Franklins wife who is the treasurer of Harney County. Needless to say when Thom let Walden know about the round up faces dropped and shock entered the room, as that was private information the Sheriffs did not want anyone outside to know. Cliff Bentz stood up two questions before Thom mentioning the round up and was heard demonizing the Bundy’s.
The demonization demonizing those who bring the light to the public and bring these issues up is wrong in our view. We have representatives that were at that meeting deomonizing the Bundy’s instead of supporting the people who are bringing the tyranny to light. Why is the Federal Government militarizing against the people of the county? Why is this being allowed?
Thom asked Walden if he supported the Constitution or just gave lip service like Wyden and Merkley did calling it a virus? Walden answered, “ I support it 100%”. Thom said to Walden and other public servants in attendance, “The Bundys and the people who have supported them are not anti government, they are anti corruption in government, the whole idea of anti government is wrong and spun by the media. We are for a government that abides by the law of the land, the Constititon and supports the people. Where is the support for the people Walden?”. Walden stopped, reflected and said, “i support the people”. Thom said that last answer of Waldens took the longest and was the one most seriously responded to. Walden responded with eye to eye contact and Thom said he felt heard.
As Thom was leaving the meeting he was approached by Sheriff Deputy Wroten and asked for his phone number and name, Thom abliged saying he had, “nothing to hide” and asked if he was going to arrest him for just stating facts. Wroten said, “No, no, people are just going to ask your name and who you and Duane are.”
So, as this story was released today about the round up of people in Harney we know that the Harney County public servants are not ready to play nice, or be transparent. Closed meetings discussing the round up of people for calling 911 or for using their first amendment rights is wrong all ways from Sunday.
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Steve Adams
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Steve AdamsDang I got halfway through this article and I can’t read the rest, it just froze one the article and now won’t go back to it.

Stephen Huls
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Stephen Hulsthese 2 talks have been on my mind, one I heard on radio this morning taking daughter to work. both fit this and those dealing with the radical agenda’s of Non Justice minded rulers. https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/hugh-b-brown_god-gardener/ The one I heard today https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/neal-a-maxwell_patience/

President Wilkinson, members of the faculty, honored guests, members of the board, graduating class, and the wonderful group of Brigham Young University student body, I am glad that…
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Coco Kocinski
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Coco KocinskiWe all saw the video, there is no mistake, the FBI murdered LaVoy, we must make sure they are held accountable! Time we demand it! They must be tried and punished if convicted.

Rebecca Mcnutt
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Rebecca McnuttThis is a spiritual battle. I have called on God more than once to deal with people and they reaped what they sowed. It was not pretty. We are more than conquerors when we unleash our faith. Don’t let demons push you around or scare you. RecognizeSee More

Stephen Hadeen
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Stephen HadeenCome on ahead you ass hats!!! Ill drop one or two at least if you try.

Rene Powers
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Rene PowersUPDATE: TODAY THE COWBOY ATTENDED A MEETING IN JORDAN VALLEY AT THE HIGHSCHOOL. Congressman Greg Walden was in attendance and it was on the Malheur Canyonland monument project that the BLM and President Obama are attempting to build. It is being pushedSee More

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Teresa BrookshireThe walls are crumbling down. So proud of you Thom, God protect you and now that Walden has publicly made his stand may he be protected also. There are many with a lot to lose with the truth being exposed.

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Amanda Blankenship
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Amanda BlankenshipI have no idea if this is what the story refers to but at that time gavin Seim was agitating people to call the FBI, Harney County Sheriff, all kinds of LEO people to clog their lines and hinder their operations. This call went out nationwide and as I understand it was pretty effective for a while, paralyzing the phone systems in those offices. They may be irritated by this, as it is (very) illegal.

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Dianne Wright
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Dianne WrightAny links to these people killing cattle and bragging about it we can share?

 

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After Holdout, David Fry Surrenders


The four militants occupying the Malheur refuge surrendered to authorities Thursday morning.David Fry, the last remaining occupant, turned himself into federal authorities after holding out. He was saying his grievances were not being heard.

David Fry, a 27-year-old from Ohio, is one of the last remaining occupiers at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

David Fry, a 27-year-old from Ohio, is one of the last remaining occupiers at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

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“I declare war against federal government,” Fry said. “There’s no way to beat this anymore. Liberty or death.”

He talked on the phone with Nevada State Rep. Michele Fiore and Gaven Seim. Their conversation was being broadcast live over the internet to tens of thousands of viewers.

Fry’s comments were erratic, swinging from suicidal threats to rants about the federal government.

Related Story: David Fry’s online friendship with militant LaVoy Finicum led him to the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

“I don’t care about the movement anymore. I’m doing it for me,” he said. His family had expressed concern to OPB that Fry might use the escalating situation to commit suicide by police.

Fry, Anderson, his wife Sandy Anderson, and Jeff Banta have all been indicted on federal conspiracy charges as a result of the refuge takeover.

Our reporters are following the developing story:

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 kBUNDYS SET UP BY iNSIDERS GIVEN REFUGE KEYS BY FISH AND GAME, AS PAIUTES GET 40 MILLION FOR THEIR CASINO FROM FED’S. “HUSH $???

By: Rene’ Powers and Thom Davis of The Cowboy and The Lady.
BREAKING NEWS: TIPS COME IN THAT REFUGE EMPLOYEES WERE TOLD TO GO HOME BY REFUGE MANAGER 4 DAYS BEFORE STAND UP, AND AN EMPLOYEE OF FISH AND GAME GAVE THE KEYS TO PEOPLE ASSISTING THE FBI AND THE REFUGE WAS OPENED FOR THE CONSTITUTIONAL POSSE! EVIDENCE LEANS TO SAY THAT AMMON AND THE MEN WERE SET UP BY THEIR OWN CONFIDANTS INSIDE THEIR TEAM!

HERE’S THE KEYS. ENJOY YOUR STAY!
As the saga of the Malheur Refuge Stand Up continues, more questions surface as the Federal Agents, aka: Occupiers of Mass Destruction, involved wreak havoc upon the Refuge and people of the area. The Federal Occupiers continue to be playing out theater of mass destruction for all of America to see. The names on the Search Warrant of the agents who executed the warrant read as the television shows of the 1960’s and the FBI show’s of today, with names like “Klein, Bibbs, Stewart, Phillips, Connor”. Folks, you just can’t make this stuff up, but apparently our Government can.

1. The F.B.I.” (1965) – Episodes cast – IMDb www.imdb.com/title/tt0058801/epcast

Internet Movie Database/The F.B.I. on IMDb: Movies, TV, Celebs, and more… … The FBI sets a trap for the embezzler when he has, through an accident, left his young son behind while …. Philip Creighton …. U.S. Attorney Cline …. Charles Stewart . …… Tim O’Connor . …… Tom Troupe … Murzie. Victor Holchak … Bibbs. Katherine Helmond … Terry.

2. Major Crimes (TV Series 2012– ) – Full Cast & Crew – IMDb www.imdb.com/title/tt1936532/fullcredits/

Internet Movie Database/Phillip P. Keene … Buzz Watson (68 … Brock Harris … Chad Stuart (3 episodes, 2014-2015) … FBI Special Agent Morris (2 episodes, 2012-2013) …. Detective Richard Connor (1 episode, 2012) … Casey Biggs . … Geoff Klein (1 episode, 2013).

THOM DAVIS DETAILS THE LACK OF TRIBES CONCERN WHEN FEDS DESTROY PROPERTY. http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/8393…

The facts i have seen produced since January 2, 2016 stand up by the Bundy’s and the men/women i call their Constitutional Posse, do not support the narrative being played out by the State of Oregon, their Prosecutors and Public Servants against the Political Prisoners. Charged with acts against the Federal Agents who came to Harney County, including impeding them from doing their job?. Did i miss something? Was the Refuge open and the Federal Agents there working? Isn’t the Refuge so far from town that it takes a half hour just to get there?
i have interviewed locals and previewed many firsthand videos of testimony, watched the public meetings held in Harney and elsewhere regarding this Stand Up. There are videos of first hand facts that will prove all the Political Prisoners must be freed. In fact the very Constitution proves the Political Prisoners must be freed. There are videos that show why the Federal Government should be chained in and justice looked at through eyes that know honor for America. A few pieces of information in all these videos will jump out at me, causing me to research a little deeper. Do you just opine or research first yourself, feeding into the Federal propaganda?
The Sheriffs of Harney County called the Narrows R.V park on January 2, 2016, to give a heads up to the Narrows that a convoy of trucks would be heading their way, but not to worry. Doesn’t this make you ask questions such as, “If Sheriff Ward knew about the Constitutional Posse, then what was really going on? What part did Ward really play in this? Why allow it? Knowing that the Narrows R.V. park and the Harney County Sheriff department are not “buddies” (a story for another day, but you can look into that yourself) suffice it to say that the Sheriff calling down to the Narrows was not something one would expect.

Listen to the 1:25 point…SHERIFF CALLED THE NARROWS and gave heads up the convoy was heading their way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jm…

What do i think? “i think the Sheriff wanted to make sure no 911 call was made into the station so he made sure to warn them out of self preservation for his participation, in what was this researchers opinion a set up.” Today i was called with evidence supporting this as well as further information that Volunteers and BLM employees were told to stay home and not come in 4 days before the Stand Up. A member of the Constitutional Posse met with the Sheriff and his Deputies alone, numerous times and a wife of one of the Sheriffs was quoted as saying, “We met with ——– and that got the ball rolling.”
As a woman who has considered the team member my friend my heart is hurting and as this goes public i just can’t say the name, but Thom Davis says it in his video in this article. (Jason Patrick). Suffice it to say, we are all heartbroken as there is nothing worse than the betrayal of someone you trusted. It is sad, but the Constitutional Posse was betrayed before even going to Harney County. Many researchers i have been working this story with say this was all a ruse to put Cliven Bundy and family behind bars and murder Lavoy Finicum. Yes, we now believe this to be the case.
Artifacts of the Paiute Tribe were destroyed for years by the BLM, but no outrage existed as the BLM dug, graded, rolled, piled yards of dirt upon, brought in dirt and animals that were not indigenous as they built Turn Island, roads, bridges, buildings and did mass destruction to burial grounds and what the Paiutes call their sacred grounds. As Thom Davis questioned in the video linked above, “where was your outrage when the Federal Government was destroying your sacred artifacts before, where is it now as they continue too?”, he continued, “The Bundy’s didn’t destroy your artifacts, the Federal Government did”.
i saw Search Warrants that were executed and found the one thing on it more interesting than most items, the mention of Artifacts owned by the Malheur Refuge and the BLM. The Paiute Tribal leaders spent their time attacking the Constitutional Posse about their artifacts, they spent time negotiating their Casino money with the Federal Agencies, but it is interesting no one bothered to tell the Paiute tribe they didn’t have any claims to the artifacts they carried on about. It would seem that a tribe that sells their souls is not a tribe to be honored, did they sell their souls?

LAVOY ASKS PAIUTE TRIBE TO COME AND TAKE CONTROL OF THEIR ARTIFACTS. http://www.hungamahub.com/video/6is…

Years of controversy over a gambling casino exist between the Paiutes and Federal Government, with many appeals by the Paiutes for the funding of their casino. The years passed without resolution, until the Constitutional Posse came to town. The Paiute tribe did not once go out and meet the Posse, but they did trash (slander) them while accusing the Posse of destruction of sacred grounds and Artifacts, all the while making back room deals for their $40,000,000.00 (40 MILLION) dollars for their casino? Why was it another tribes Tribal Leader that went to the refuge in concern to look and meet the Posse? Did you know the other Tribal Leader found no destruction, no Artifacts being destroyed?
The Paiute tribe never accepted the invitation or Olive Branch extended by Lavoy Finicum and the Constitutional Posse to visit and see for themselves how their artifacts were disrespected by the BLM and volunteers. Yet, on Monday February 29, 2016, after weeks of the Federal Agents blocking entry by anyone other than agents, the Paiutes convoy in multiple vehicles to the refuge to finally, “see for themselves” the site they condemned as taken over by Militant Occupiers destroying their sacred artifacts. They were able to find that little orange flags pointing to evidence were placed all around, upon the gravel road they yelled about, upon the septic tank area of leach lines, upon the grounds that the federal agents must not have realized had nothing to do with the Constitutional Posse but were ground abused by their own Federal employees. The flags were to mark where artifacts were found just thrown around as proof of destruction done, but who really did the damage? What about the employee of the hotel in John Day who found artifacts accidentally left by Federal Agents who were part of Lavoy Finicums murder? Evidence shows that no artifacts were disturbed by the Constitutional Posse. Evidence points to the federal agents staging and planting evidence.
The last four that were labeled , “the last four occupiers”, leave more questions than answers as well. i wrote an article in January just after these four took their seat around a campfire to smoke pot, drink and share drone shooting stories. When i saw the theater, the noses close to the camera, the pivoting of camouflaged man speaking like a back hills illiterate i knew it was something staged. These people were not stupid, they were not really doing this were they? Why were these people sleeping in tents when they had buildings to stay in? Why now do we know ditches were dug that were used for pooping in, when the refuge has facilities to use? (seems like a pile of more poop to add to charges?) Upon further research the article went out, less than 72 hours later the narrative at the Refuge went from “Crazy Militant Occupiers” to stories that were directed to pity and support for them as just wayward people fighting for what they believed in. The last four appear to have been used as a trap to get Cliven Bundy to Oregon.
The last four used for a propaganda extravaganza were called upon and spoken to by many, from Michelle Fiore, Reverend Graham, FBI negotiators, people at large and even Cliven Bundy himself. (David Fry and his crew turned the narrative from crazy idiots to mislead and abused members of the Constitutional Posse.) Following the article it was evident that all of these people, mouth pieces, were being orchestrated to reach a peaceful outcome, one that many i have interviewed point to ruining the blood bath that was actually to have taken place. Social media is the Trojan Horse that has backfired on the Federal Government, thank you Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook for taking up a partnership of espionage as it also gives the people a platform to communicate as well. The people are not stupid, many are mislead, many still have no clue we are lead by Foreign Corporate Entities, but Americans are waking up and the staged events of the past have come under too many questions. To many innocent people have died as these agents act out their duties. The Refuge Espionage Saga has too many holes in it.
BREAKING NEWS TODAY, an inside source spoke with David Fry’s father, Bill Fry. Bill was said to be upset that the FBI had David take pictures of each room while David was at the refuge and send them to them. Bill Fry was said to have believed his son was used and manipulated. The source further stated that it appears the refuge was made to appear strewn and messy, as well as the orchestrated digging and actions of the last four to build a case against the Constitutional Posse.
The Constitutional Posse found the Refuge in a state of filth and disarray. Rat feces, varmint urine, dead rats, destroyed boxes holding Artifacts, buildings full of trash and layers of dirt that started out as dust and what they saw as a total lack of respect for such a beautiful piece of history. During the Constitutional Posse’s stay at the refuge the local volunteers supposedly cried out for removal of them and denounced the Posse as terrorist, guilty of crimes? Guilty of crimes? GUILTY of CRIMES? What real crimes? Where is there really a victim? If someone wants to clean my house, rid my property of dead rats and feces, clean my barn and bring in clean hay daily, protect private property from grand larceny, well get on it! It was the volunteers working for the BLM who allowed the horrific handling and mishandling of the refuge. Where was the outrage of the Paiutes then?
The Bio Diversity team of Kiegan Suckerland came in on Martin Luther King day and shouted to all who would hear about how the Refuge had been seized and that they were adamant that the “Occupiers” had to go and return the property back to the BLM. Hello? Anyone hearing something to research here yet? i actually found articles about this group where Keigans partner bragged about having been arrested 25 or 26 times, having blocked off Wall Street with over 4,000 protestors who mocked police and scared them into a small, crime scene taped off area, around the Wall Street Bull. The Wall Street Protest ended in the arrests of about 100 people. (More information i have read and researched show that Steve Grasty has ties to this group through funding.) i actually posted these articles and questions to the Bio Diversity Team on the Facebook picture they posted at the Refuge sign Martin Luther King Day, but all the articles i posted with questions an my comments were removed, i was blocked. Who is Kiegan Suckerland really? Bio Diversity Eco Terrorist or American, i don’t believe you can be both.
Explosives. The fact is there were already explosives at the refuge when the Constitutional Posse arrived. The explosives were dangerously stored by the BLM and Ammon Bundy went on camera discussing the explosives. He made statements of how they were stored dangerously in a manner and assured anyone listening that no one was going to use them. Ammon continued that an explosives expert was on the site with him and would be making sure they were secured properly and all would be locked as they should have been in the first place.
AMMON DISCUSSING EXPLOSIVES https://www.facebook.com/sarah.redd…
After weeks of armed and Federal agents running amuck over the refuge grounds, the Posse items were allowed to be picked up, that is those not seized by the agents with theatrical names. After these agents broke car windows, slim jims anyone? anyone?, after they broke locks and ripped apart seats and strewn items all over the autos, they set out to allow people to retrieve what was left of their damaged private property.
SEE PICTURES OF A COUPLE PAGES OF THE WARRANTS BELOW
What part in this theater do Sheriff Dave Ward and CEO/OWNER/JUDGE of Harney County Steve Grasty play?(remember, Grasty is also the Administrator for the county Health and Human Services department, a Commissioner, CEO of the county Database/Electronic recordation system, member of multiple BLM/Forestry committees (along with his wife), top Freemason who has to interject conflict of interest into cases including a paving contractor too.) How did Ward call the Narrows R.V. park knowing the Posse was on its way to the refuge on January 2, 2016, yet he did nothing to stop it? These men wreak havoc and lies and yet today Sheriff Palmer is the one being called wrong for even having a simple discussion with a couple of the Posse? Palmer is being ran up the pole accused of wrong doing when Sheriff Ward and Grasty met with them more times than anyone else prior to the take over and Ward knew to give a heads up to the Narrows that the convoy was heading out and said there was nothing to worry about?
The Bible leaves messages for many to read, isn’t it interesting that a message was also left in a bible for one of the automobile owners? Who left it there and why in the Bible? One has to start asking questions and receiving answers. When you truly seek answers you will have no choice but to ask more questions, why? The reason is that too much about this Stand Up prove “Set Up”. We ask for the release of the Political Prisoners and the return of the Federal Government back to the 10 square miles it belongs.

KRISANNE HALL/THE BLM HAS NO AUTHORITY TO TAKE LAND. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T42…

Knowing there is a big difference between US CITIZEN and State Citizen i ask you all to please educate yourself on the difference, see that the Political Prisoners are being held as “ransom” for their bonds and priceless worth of their legal fiction. Are you scratching your head here in confusion or high fiving each other because i am mentioning it? Get to the high five people! If you really do not know why you should be high fiving each other over the difference of US CITIZEN vs. State Citizen i suggest you are asleep at the ships wheel. Come ashore people, learn why we must support the Political Prisoners and stop the tyranny. It is the duty of all Americans to protect our liberties and freedoms.
As God is our Witness we either stop the Tyranny and stand as the true Americans we are, or you fall at the hands of foreign agents who are working to steal our land, home and lives. Which will it be?
Irish Lass/rp……and so it is.
What is an American Patriot? An American Patriot is a mother, a father, a sister, a brother, an aunt, grandpa, grandmother, legal immigrant, planter of seeds, maker of American goods and teacher of the Constitution and our founding fathers work. An American Patriot is tireless and the biggest supporter of real government anywhere. Between the Sovereign Borders of the four corners of the United States of America the American Patriot takes the duty of protecting their brethren seriously and is devoted to peace, not warring and living upon our unalienable rights, our Natural Law. An American Patriot is where the blood spilled comes from that defends you. An American Patriot is the number one target of the Federal Government. In all that has saved America you will find an American Patriot.
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What is an American Patriot? An American Patriot is a mother, a father, a sister, a brother, an aunt, grandpa, grandmother, legal immigrant, planter of seeds, maker of American goods and teacher of the Constitution and our founding fathers work. An American Patriot is tireless and the biggest supporter of real government anywhere. Between the Sovereign Borders of the four corners of the United States of America the American Patriot takes the duty of protecting their brethren seriously and is devoted to peace, not warring and living upon our unalienable rights, our Natural Law. An American Patriot is where the blood spilled comes from that defends you. An American Patriot is the number one target of the Federal Government. In all that has saved America you will find an American Patriot
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Lorie Cole
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Lorie Cole You are an amazing writer & a TRUE INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST. Thank you!

Susy Pearce
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Susy Pearce So glad to see thing making since! Good work!

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Rene Powers
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Rene Powers it is so crazy that the very first and only thing that should END this case is Ward KNEW what they were doing AND allowed for entry and keys! This is as VOID as all of this gets for the political prisoners. Why are they not out yet? always follow the $$$. There is a LOT of money being made on securitizing this case and selling on the international securities market, which by the way is ILLEGAL!

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Jefri Jo Balderson
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Jefri Jo Balderson Who was your person who you considered friend that set them up?

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William Cork
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William Cork We lost the founding fathers constitution in 1871
When the central bank took over
To fix this fight to is not believe in the treasury note See More

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Donna Furnival
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H Marty Schelper
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H Marty Schelper So proud of you and your diligence!

Sandy Paul Eischen
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Sandy Paul Eischen Excellent read! Great investigative journalism. I agree 100% the patriots were set up by the govt to go to Malhuer. The Bundy men were too trusting of a government agent working undercover. The government has achieved many goals if the patriots are coSee More

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SHARE THE TRUTH! — The FBI did not fix ANYTHING! They were the aggressors from day one and Americas patriots, by the Grace of God, helped the final 4 get out alive.

 

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